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National Hurricane Conference 2002
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The National Hurricane Conference is going on this week here in Orlando, and one of the things to come out of it was the expectation of a rather average year (storm count wise), which I agree with.

It's been a while since a Major Hurricane has hit Florida now, it'll be 10 years since Andrew this season. Complacency may have set in among many, and I fear this may be the case again.

September 11th gave extra focus to Emergency Management, and I think they are about as reasonably prepared as the could be. The evacuation routes from the coastline are still very poor, and the road system in Central Florida can't handle normal work traffic well, much less a massive evacuation. They've talked about one-waying the main roads (I4/Turnpike/Beeline etc) during emergencies. But that requires a lot of manpower to make sure no "oopses" happen at the entrance on/off ramps.

I expect a different hurricane season this year... This doesn't mean more or even more landfalls, just storms in different places than we have seen in the last two years. I actually expect fewer this year.

Preperations for the new season are progressing slowly, but we'll get there. :)

- [mac]




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Not Exactly What I Got Out of the Conference (#1)
Posted by: Steve H. Location: palm bay, FL
Posted On 12:09PM 04-Apr-2002 with id (QUUNQPTNRSYNQV*)
Seems to me there is growing concern of some intense cyclones during the season (2002). And the table is set IMO for a season well above average, but I'd like to qualify that. IT WILL BE DEPENDENT UPON WHETHER OR NOT EL NINO GETS INTO SWING. IMO this will be the only limiting factor. If El Nino is weak to nil, I believe we'll see 16 named storms....if EL nino gets into full swing, below average. Too early to tell what El Nino will look like. I agree with you on your point about a different kind of season than the last two years. With a season of storm tracks similar to '96. That's my take, heck it's still early. Interested to see what Gray's Friday outlook is. If I understood him correctly on last nights news, he still has a hangup about the FLorida Peninsula getting nailed. Stay tuned. Cheers!! q


analog (#2)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posted On 12:12PM 04-Apr-2002 with id (QRXNQXVNQRSNQYS*)
i know dr. gray's forecast is about to be updated, but using the december given analog years here's what i spotted:
the given years were 1953, 1957, 1961, 1969, 1980, 1990
lots of cape verde activity in the given years. none of the cape verde systems impacted the east coast, with only one notable storm crossing into the caribbean (allen 1980).
a good amount of activity in the northwest atlantic and near the islands, but very little affecting the east coast. no major hurricane landfalls on the eastern seaboard in analog years. a majority of systems forming off the east coast stay away.
heavier gulf activity than in recent years, but most of it weak, except for audrey 1957
storms originating in the western caribbean account for the most of notable systems from the analog years (camille, carla-aug/sep storms)
most activity in the caribbean scuttled in central america.
central atlantic systems occasional and harmless.

the analog years seem to argue for this picture of the hurricane season: early season activity in the gulf is harmless, mid season storms form off the east coast and near the cape verdes and dont affect the u.s., and late season storms form in the western carib and central atlantic and bother no one. that said, four of the six analog years had one big one that hit the u.s., but no two of them were much alike.
three of the big hits were on the western gulf tx/w louisiana.
a flurry of rinky dink storms hit florida, and some weak systems hit the east coast.
the canadian maritimes got clipped as much as the east coast. outside of allen, caribbean activity included hattie, anna, and francelia, all of which impacted belize. other systems were minor.

kind of interesting that though this year looks different than those preceding it (el nino's tentative comeback), the given analogs argue for more of the same.. activity heavy but little in the way of u.s. landfall.




El nino??? (#3)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 12:41PM 04-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYSNRY*)
"This upcoming hurricane season appears to have the potential for continued above-average hurricane activity." Gray said.

(Click here)http://www.usatoday.com/weather/hurricane/stories/2001/2001-12-07-gray-forecast.htm


hmm.. (#4)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posted On 04:15PM 04-Apr-2002 with id (QRXNQXVNQRSNQYS*)
well, just for fairness i should get to update my hurricane forecast as often as gray, so like the other, just before his...
12-8-4
same as late nov. sticking to my guns on those numbers, doubt theyll be far off.


prizes (#5)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posted On 04:17PM 04-Apr-2002 with id (QRXNQXVNQRSNQYS*)
we should have a pool on the season, see who's forecast numbers are the closest.


My '02 atl. hurr. predicition (#6)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 05:35PM 04-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYSNTX*)
16 named
12 hurricanes
06 major storms
final report 4/4/2002


prizes? (#7)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 05:37PM 04-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYSNTX*)
I will tell you something in June or July or June.


Here's how I see hurricane season 2002. (#8)
Posted by:
Kevin Location: Orlando, Florida
Posted On 05:49PM 04-Apr-2002 with id (QVXNQYQNXSNRPU*)
I think the conditions in Gray's analogs are only for factors that influence hurricane activity, not storm tracks. I understand the fact that this year may have similar conditions to Gray's analogs, but I think the tracks will be entirely different. I expect the type of year where most of the storms in the Atlantic come close to the East Coast and have everyone holding their breath until they veer away. I don't actually expect an East Coast landfall, but I expect some BIG threats. The reason? Well, we've had a small number of troughs comming off the East Coast this winter it seems like. It looks like this pattern may continue into the hurricane season. Uncertain, but possible. As for the acitvity? It will be very intense...especially in August and September. I don't see any real factors that would cause a lot of sheer (no strong ENSO, westerly QBO, high pressure supposed to be more favorable this year). I'm betting that this year all of the factors will finally align correctly, and mother nature will put on a big show.


I'm Back!!!!!!! (#9)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 11:22PM 04-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
Hey,everyone.I was just checking out the web site hit not really expecting to find much but,man,you all stay on top of this stuff year round.Good going.I now in Pearland,which is about 30 to 40 miles closer to the coast than I was in Houston.Thanks,Steve,for remembering me.I thought this year would be a slower season than last but the reports I'm hearing from everywhere are suggesting otherwise.By the way,I hope my 2nd year on this site goes alot smoother than my first.You all were also right,and I was wrong,about last year turning out to be at least an average one.I will never doubt you again.Hope you all will keep posting all the way up to the start of the season.God bless all of you!!!


Always proof-read!!! (#10)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 11:27PM 04-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
I should have re-read my posting before I hit "post this" to catch those typing errors.Really,I do know how to type and spell.Just in a hurry,I guess!!


Wow! Talk about a rapid change... (#11)
Posted by:
Kevin Location: Orlando, Florida
Posted On 08:55AM 05-Apr-2002 with id (QVXNQYQNYQNST*)
http://www.fnoc.navy.mil/products/OTIS/otis_glbl_sstanomaly.gif
Look at the GOMEX SSTA's! They've exploded! Just weeks ago, they were below average, but look off the sw coast of Florida! Looks like what we had off of the African coast awhile back! There's also another spot in the central GOMEX as well, just not as above average. Caribbean and Atlantic waters (especially off of E. Coast) are also getting warmer.
BTW, nice to have you back, Shawn.
Take care,
Kevin



DR. GRAYS 4/5/02 PREDICTIONS (#12)
Posted by: ROB H Location: CLEARWATER
Posted On 12:29PM 05-Apr-2002 with id (VTNQPUNQWWNQWP*)
12 NAMED STORMS, 7 HURRICANES, 3 INTENSE
DOWN 1 IN EACH CATAGORY


My predictions (#13)
Posted by: Joe Location: St.Petersburg
Posted On 05:41PM 05-Apr-2002 with id (VVNQYNWVNUQ*)
My 2002 Predictions TROPICAL STORMS - 14 HURRICANES - 9 INTENSE HURRICANES - 4 Just one less named storm this year then last year. We shall see...


April 5, 2002 ?? (#14)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 07:06PM 05-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYWNUY*)
Dr. Gray's predictions will be wrong, I believe!


Only 3 months (#15)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 07:38PM 05-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYWNUY*)
We should see 4 hurricanes or more in Atlantic basin from June 1 to August 31!


my prediction (#16)
Posted by: robert
Posted On 08:30PM 05-Apr-2002 with id (RTNUUNRSTNTX*)
my prediction 21 tropical storms 9 hurricanes 5 intense


Hey robert... (#17)
Posted by: Steve Location: Old Metairie, LA
Posted On 10:08PM 05-Apr-2002 with id (VSNQWNQWNQVX*)
That's a wild prediction. It's my favorite one so far. It more or less guarantees me at least some TD rainsqualls.

I really don't want to jump the gun until just before hurricane season so I can consider what all of the gurus have to say and also the conditions, but since everyone else has the kahooneys to give it a shot, here's a (asterix, subject to change, etc.) guess:

NS - 13
H - 8
IH - 3 (possibly 4)



Dr. Gray's analog yrs. It might be misaligned, but '69 was Camile... (#18)
Posted by: Steve Location: Old Metairie, LA
Posted On 10:24PM 05-Apr-2002 with id (VSNQWNQWNQVX*)
NS NSD H HD IH IHD HDP NTC
1951 10 58 8 36 2 5.00 113 120
1953 14 65 6 18 3 5.50 59 120
1957 8 38 3 21 2 5.25 67 85
1969 17 83 12 40 3 2.75 110 155
Mean 12.2 61 7.2 28.8 2.50 4.6 87 120

2002 Forecast 12 65 7 30 3 6 85 125

In Dr. Gray's 4/5 forecast, he really admits that the analog schems are working better than his forecast models (which have trended towards under-predicting). So if these weak/moderate El Nino years have a relationship, we're in for a bit above normal season.

Steve




Here's Mine!!! (#19)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 10:27PM 05-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
I guess I can try and take a shot at predicting this season.

named storms = 17

hurricanes = 10

3 or higher = 5

Steve,I also think you or I will be hit by one of these.My attitude has changed since last year,too;I do not want a hurricane to hit here this year.We had way too much damage from the "a" storm last year.I don't even like to say the name,anymore.I really hope no one gets hit this year.Let's just hope for the best.


... (#20)
Posted by: Steve Location: Old Metairie, LA
Posted On 10:38PM 05-Apr-2002 with id (VSNQWNQWNSX*)
>>Steve,I also think you or I will be hit by one of these.My attitude has changed since last year,too;I do not want a hurricane to hit here this year.We had way too much damage from the "a" storm last year.I don't even like to say the name,anymore.I really hope no one gets hit this year.Let's just hope for the best.

Yeah, I hope to get some action in (not a 5 of course). Last year, it was all of the Central Florida posters who got the squalls, winds, surf et al.


The Big One (#21)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 10:55PM 05-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
Hey,Steve,I hate to say it,but you know that both of us are way over due for a big one.It's just a matter of time before it happens.Actually,I'm pretty excited this year because I now have a cable modem(roadrunner) so I can watch Joe B. on his streaming videos and he will actually move instead of me just hearing his voice.I'll also be able to download alot more than last year.I'm counting down the days!!!


A continued upturn of the recent six (1995-96-98-99-00-01) busy hurricane season is expected. (#22)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 07:49AM 07-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNQYWNRQT*)
(Click here)http://typhoon.atmos.colostate.edu/forecasts/2002/april2002/


Ripley's Believe It Or Not! (#23)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 10:19AM 07-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNQYWNQWW*)
Atlantic hurricane seasons on record!

1912- Titanic
1914- 0 hurricanes
1925- 1 hurricane
1982- 2 hurricanes
1994- 3 hurricanes
1995- a very busy!
1996- a very busy!
1997- 3 hurricanes again because El nino reduced number of hurricanes
1998 to 2001- very busy seasons again!

Increase in hurricanes expected.

We will see 4 hurricanes or more each year!


Ripley's Believe It Or Not! (#24)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 10:24AM 07-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNQYWNQWW*)
Bull's haunted house in England. Bull had 14 children

(Click here)http://www.borleyrectory.com/biblio/ripley.htm

http://www.borleyrectory.com/


new analogs (#25)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posted On 01:56PM 07-Apr-2002 with id (QRXNQXVNQRSNQYS*)
gray's update changed the analog years somewhat, but not the overall strike pattern. basically follows the split recurve/due west thing we've been getting last few years. of course, getting stuck in a longwave pattern with an east coast ridge in the late summer can make all the difference in the world. it is noteworthy that late summer heatwaves on the east coast do tend to occur in el nino years, but more often in strong ones where activity is mitigated.


Supporting HankFrank's comments... (#26)
Posted by: Steve Location: Old Metairie, LA
Posted On 03:56PM 07-Apr-2002 with id (VSNQWNQWNQT*)
http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/hurrarchive.asp

Interestingly enough, in 1957, 3 storms hit the LA coast - all of them formed in the southern gulf and moved northward. In 1969, Camile hit Mississippi. 1953 and 1951 were mostly uneventful with the exception of a storm that hit the FL panhandle. I didn't look at any climatology from 51, 53, 57 and 69, but the tracking maps are available at the above link.

Steve


One correction... (#27)
Posted by: Steve Location: Old Metairie, LA
Posted On 03:59PM 07-Apr-2002 with id (VSNQWNQWNQT*)
Hazel also hit the GA/SC border (a rare landfall in that area).




SST's (#28)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland
Posted On 05:22PM 07-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
It looks like waters are already warm enough in the Caribbean.I wonder how soon the first dep. will form this year.Anyone want to take a stab at the date of the first one of 2002?


We will see 4 hurricanes or more! wait and see (#29)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 06:01PM 07-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYSNQVX*)
Atlantic hurricane seasons on record!

1912- Titanic
1912- Titanic
1914- 0 hurricanes
1925- 1 hurricane
1982- 2 hurricanes
1994- 3 hurricanes
2002- 4 hurricanes or more
Increase in hurricanes expected
If i am right ? Don't ask me. LOL !!!!
(Click here)http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/index.html


scientific observations (#30)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posted On 11:34PM 07-Apr-2002 with id (QRXNQXVNQRSNQYS*)
Atlantic hurricane seasons on record

65 million BC k-t impact near chicxulub, mexico
ad 1054 crab nebula supernova recorded
1908 tunguska event
1929 stock market crash
1964 kubrick movie dr. strangelove in theaters
1969 12 hurricanes
1980 9 hurricanes
1985 7 hurricanes
1992 4 hurricanes
1997 3 hurricanes
2002 2 or fewer hurricanes

decrease in hurricanes expected!
if i am right? the world makes no sense.

by the way shawn two of the four analog seasons had may storms. able in 51 is particularly strange.. a cat 3 off hatteras in may? i keep wondering if that is some inside joke at the nhc.


you crazy (#31)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 07:47AM 08-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPTNUW*)
1914- 0 hurricanes
1925- 1 hurricane
1982- 2 hurricanes
1994- 3 hurricanes
1995- a very very activity!!!

1994 hurricane season

June- no hurricane
July- no hurricane
Aug- 1 hurricane
Sept- no hurricane
Oct- no hurricane
Nov- 2 hurricanes

1994 hurricane season looks like bomb !!!! because Hurricane season ends on November!!!!

HankFrank, I don't understand you, I am very serious!!!!!!!!!


HankFrank (#32)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 07:50AM 08-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPTNUW*)
You are retared!!!


???????? (#33)
Posted by: Steve H. Location: palm bay, FL
Posted On 07:53AM 08-Apr-2002 with id (QUUNQPTNRSYNQV*)
I din't HankFrank was retired, I thought he was a student!


Oh (#34)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 07:59AM 08-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPTNUW*)
I know you won't see 3 or 2 hurricanes each year!!! You will lost!!!!


years 2002 to 2200 or each year (#35)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 08:11AM 08-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPTNUW*)
Atantic basin: When will we see 2 or 3 hurricanes?? LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


2002 Atlantic hurricane season (#36)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 09:34AM 08-Apr-2002 with id (RPYNRTPNRRRNQSQ*)
1912- Titanic
1914- 0 hurricanes
1925- 1 hurricane
1982- 2 hurricanes
1994- 3 hurricanes
2002- You will see 4 hurricanes or more
You will see!!!


Shawn (2nd Paragraph) A little Bastardi hint at the upcoming season... (#37)
Posted by: Steve Location: Old Metaire, LA
Posted On 10:16AM 08-Apr-2002 with id (RPXNRTXNRSQNUX*)
>>Notes and asides: The countdown has begun! The hurricane number from Doc Gray has dropped from 13 to 12 and I suspect it will be more like 10...

>>In any case, we will be seeing how the el Nino evolves how the spring pattern looks to see if it gives us a clue. There are already a couple of major points I will make, but you will have to wait until June for our hurricane forecast ( Hint: Much more even distribution of storms, and a much more random pattern than last years alleyway from the Caribbean and southeast gulf northeast. Gut feeling is Texas is the greatest threat area this season, but have to watch.

Enjoy


?????? (#38)
Posted by: Nick
Posted On 10:16AM 08-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNQYWNWQ*)
John...what the hell are you talking about


John in South Florida... (#39)
Posted by: Steve Location: Old Metaire, LA
Posted On 10:18AM 08-Apr-2002 with id (RPXNRTXNRSQNUX*)
>>1912- Titanic
1914- 0 hurricanes
1925- 1 hurricane
1982- 2 hurricanes
1994- 3 hurricanes
2002- You will see 4 hurricanes or more
You will see!!!

You've been posting this every week or so. I'm stumped. What have 1912, 1914, 1925, 1982 and 1994 got to do with 2002? And who is actually going to see 4 hurricanes or more - the entire basin?

Dump the code in favor of English lol

Cheers.

Steve


echo (#40)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posted On 02:41PM 08-Apr-2002 with id (QRXNQXVNQRSNQYS*)
steve's already mentioned this, but bastardi is talking about the more random distribution of storms this year, rather than them all following the same corridors. that and picking texas as the victim of the year. hear that shawn? if you dont have a surfboard, buy one. the better to ride the swells. personally i want to hear more about how the global circulation should take shape this summer. activity or no, if everything below 20N goes west and everything north of that recurves, it will just be a repeat of the last two seasons.
john in south florida, by the way.. i wasnt being serious. just having fun for a change.


Now It's Texas!! (#41)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland
Posted On 03:52PM 08-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
Oh,great!!! Now when I finally get some smarts and don't want a storm to come to Texas,this is when we seem to become Joe B.'s #1 target this year.The bad thing is that alot of his predictions,not all,but enough to take notice,come true.If this does happen,I guess you all will hear alot more from me this year than last.That should make everyone feel better...LOL!!!


Cats and Dogs here today... (#42)
Posted by: Steve Location: Old Metaire, LA
Posted On 03:59PM 08-Apr-2002 with id (RPXNRTXNRSQNUX*)
check the radar - MASSIVE squall line blowing through wtih 35mph+ gusts. It must be springtime.

Steve


Steve (#43)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland
Posted On 04:13PM 08-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
That squall line that is blowing through your neck of the woods now was over in my area early this morning.It brought about 5 to 6 inches of rain with it.A few of the bayous couldn't handle it here.I hope it won't be that bad there.


We're set for 2-5"... (#44)
Posted by: Steve Location: Old Metaire, LA
Posted On 04:27PM 08-Apr-2002 with id (RPXNRTXNRSQNUX*)
I think they will get more rain south of the city, but it looks like we'll see about 3. It started raining around 2:35 and should continue on until 6ish. Unfortunately, I planted some tomatoes on Saturday and didn't stake them. I'm hoping the wind's not going to knock the snot out of 'em. It's my own fault because I had the popsicle sticks to it.

Steve


Florida is older than Texas!! LOL (#45)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 04:38PM 08-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPTNWR*)
Florida became 27 state!!
Texas became 28 state!!


Steve????? (#46)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 06:01PM 08-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPTNWS*)
She died on my 3rd birthday! THAT'S ME !!!
(Click here)http://users.deltacomm/rainbowz/introduction.html



Steve???? (#47)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 06:05PM 08-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPTNWS*)
She died on my 3rd birthday! THAT'S ME !!
(Click here)http://users.deltacomm.com/rainbow/indroduction.html


"The Wizard of Oz" (#48)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 06:07PM 08-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPTNWS*)
Judy Garland died on my 3rd birthday!!! That's me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Bull lived in haunted house in England (#49)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 06:11PM 08-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPTNWS*)
Bull died when Judy Garland was almost 5 year old!


Atlantic basin: Increase in hurricanes expected (#50)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 06:17PM 08-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPTNWS*)
I know you hate hurricanes. LOL


Dr Gray said. (#51)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 06:54PM 08-Apr-2002 with id (VTNQRNQPTNTY*)
Hurricane activity has been on the rise since the 1995 season, Gray said. The years 1995 through 2001 represent the most active seven-season period on record, with 94 named storms, 58 hurricanes and 27 major hurricanes. I don't understand you, Nick !!!! LOL !!!


John (#52)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland
Posted On 08:26PM 08-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
John,don't take this the wrong way,but I'm not sure I understand where you are coming from on most of your postings.I must have missed out on something.


Who will win? me? wait and see (#53)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 10:12PM 08-Apr-2002 with id (VTNQRNQPTNTX*)
2002 Atlatnic hurricane season

Me 12 hurricanes

Shawn- 10 hurricanes


Reply To Post #40 (#54)
Posted by:
TropicalWxWatcher Location: New Orleans, Louisiana
Posted On 06:25PM 09-Apr-2002 with id (VVNQUWNVWNUY*)
Usually during El Nino episodes, we see less landfalling US landfalls. The reason for this, is due to a strong subtropical jet which increases in strength. However, there are two factors that we need to monitor. #1 Well the first one is monitoring the strength of El Nino. If we only see a weak El Nino or possibly even neutral episode, we would see a weaker subtropical jet. #2 The Azores High is at a very good possition and strength. In addition, the Bermuda High has been stronger than average. This would result in a more westward track of tropical cyclones that develop in the MDR (Mean Development Region).


2002 Atlantic hurricane season (#55)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 06:38PM 09-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPWNXT*)
I hate to wait


Post # 40 (#56)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 06:45PM 09-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPWNXT*)
Coconut palm trees in South Florida and Hawaii ONLY! hahahahaha No coconut palm trees in Tallahasee, Florida!!! Sorry, :-(


Okay John, you'll LOVE THIS PREDICTION: (#57)
Posted by:
Kevin Location: Orlando, Florida
Posted On 06:59PM 09-Apr-2002 with id (QVXNQYQNXSNQX*)
My "other bogus prediction" for 2002 Hurricane Season. Here are the numbers:
2002 Named Storms
2002 Hurricanes
2002 Major Hurricanes
To accompany this "somewhat" above average prediction here is are the strike probabilites:
A 2002% chance that all 2002 storms will make landfall! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Laughing my ass off,
Kevin A. Budd
Orlando, Florida


Coconut Palms can be found in any tropical area (#58)
Posted by:
John C (http://flhurricane.com) Location: Cocoa
Posted On 07:16PM 09-Apr-2002 with id (VUNSUNYXNQY*)
The coconut palm is typically found along tropical, sandy shorelines since it can tolerate brackish soils and salt spray. However, salt is not required for the growth of healthy plants and they can be successfully grown well inland. Coconut palms grow well in a wide range of soil types, provided they are well-drained, and a wide pH range, from 5.0 to 8.0. Successful growth requires a minimum average temperature of 72°F and an annual rainfall of 30 to 50 inches or more. The trees may be injured by cold when the temperature falls below 32°F (0°C). They require full sunlight and are tolerant to wind and temporary flooding.


Yes, I know (#59)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 07:58PM 09-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPWNWT*)
Some coconut palm trees can grow in Central Florida. But Alot of coconut palm trees in South Florida!


Leave John Alone.... (#60)
Posted by: Steve H. Location: Palm Bay, FL
Posted On 08:04PM 09-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYUNTV*)
he gives the board character! I'm not a moderator or anything, but let's keep the board civil. Not that anyone has been mean, but I'd hate to see it deteriorate like other boards that are weather related. Anyhow, the strong western atlantic high pressure is keeping seas up on the east coast of Florida, keeping the SSTs at bay, since mixing and upwelling of the water is occurring. This will continue right through the weekend. The winds here in Melbourne (Palm Bay) have been strong since Friday and this unusually strong high should get reinforced again late in the week. Never really have seen such a dominant high in the western Atlantic that has persisted since last summer!! Now we wait to see if El Nino becomes a factor this season. If not...look out! Cheers!!


Hey, Speaking of Unusual... (#61)
Posted by: Steve H. Location: Palm Bay, FL
Posted On 08:21PM 09-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYUNTV*)
Anyone check out the spin near 32N/54W?? Lots of convection flaring around the "center". Not gonna amount to anything, but unusual to have a low at such a southern latitude moving WSW this time of year. That Strong high is influencing the low. Cheers!!


Judy Garland was a wonderful girl. Prince Denis said. (#62)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 09:01PM 09-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPWNXT*)
Denis died on my 18th birthday. When Prince Denis met Judy Garland at Oz! WOW!


Me? (#63)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 09:13PM 09-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPWNXT*)
Many spanish and cuban people live in South Florida


out of season (#64)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Tallytown (TLH, FL)
Posted On 01:15AM 10-Apr-2002 with id (QRXNQXVNQRSNQYS*)
yeah why not? nothing else to do til hurricane season starts.


i am retared (#65)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posted On 01:16AM 10-Apr-2002 with id (QRXNQXVNQRSNQYS*)
i love to wait for hurricanes!! 2 or fewer hurricanes expected!!!


post #56 (#66)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posted On 01:17AM 10-Apr-2002 with id (QRXNQXVNQRSNQYS*)
chipmunks on North American continent ONLY! HAHAHAHAHA. no chipmunk in Fort Myers. Too bad!!


1989 World Series (#67)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posted On 01:18AM 10-Apr-2002 with id (QRXNQXVNQRSNQYS*)
loma prieta earthquake struck on my 9th birthday!!! delayed world series between A's and giants.


ripley's believe it or not (#68)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posted On 01:19AM 10-Apr-2002 with id (QRXNQXVNQRSNQYS*)
rev. dale chipmunk live in haunted tree. dale have 29 baby chipmunk children. but no cats. dale hate cats and ill-temper duck. live in coconut palm tree!!! in san jose


synopsis (#69)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posted On 01:20AM 10-Apr-2002 with id (QRXNQXVNQRSNQYS*)
earthquake make world series stop. tree shake coconuts and chipmunks fall out.


me? (#70)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posted On 01:21AM 10-Apr-2002 with id (QRXNQXVNQRSNQYS*)
many drunk college student live in Tallahassee.


steve h. (#71)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Uzbekistan
Posted On 01:32AM 10-Apr-2002 with id (QRXNQXVNQRSNQYS*)
he does give the board character. why should a hurricane website have anything to do with hurricanes? but to forsake judy garland's memory.

no really, its out of season, nothing much to talk about. so all these weird tangents are about all there is.

later y'all.


Your nothing !!!!!!!!!!! (#72)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 03:50AM 10-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPWNUT*)
Don't bug me!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!


2002 Atlantic hurricane season (#73)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 04:24AM 10-Apr-2002 with id (VTNQRNQPTNQVR*)
Don't boring yourself! Same number

There are 51 days until hurricane season

Puerto Rico won't become the 51st state, I believe


LOL!!! (#74)
Posted by: Steve H. Location: palm bay, FL
Posted On 07:48AM 10-Apr-2002 with id (QUUNQPTNRSYNQV*)
Judy Garland liked speed! But had a tough life me thinks/


Shhhhhh, Don't tell italian people (#75)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 09:16AM 10-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPWNTV*)
Judy Garland died on my 3rd birthday !!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAH !!!!


waiting (#76)
Posted by: ROB H Location: CLEARWATER
Posted On 09:51AM 10-Apr-2002 with id (VTNQPUNQWWNQWP*)
NHC say's "blob" in sw GOM showing signs of circulation and expected to move eastward into W central GOM, to bad its not august.


Shhhhhhhhh.. (#77)
Posted by: Steve Location: Old Metaire, LA
Posted On 09:53AM 10-Apr-2002 with id (RPXNRTXNRSQNUX*)
NO LIBERTY CITY IN SOUTH LOUISIANA. NO CRAWFISH IN SOUTH FLORIDA. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


AS DOROTHY WOULD SAY (#78)
Posted by: ROB H Location: CLEARWATER
Posted On 10:26AM 10-Apr-2002 with id (VTNQPUNQWWNQWP*)
CHIPMUNKS, COCONUT PALMS AND HURRICANES, OH MY


GOM (#79)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland
Posted On 10:47AM 10-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
I'm with you ,Rob.It is weird to see a convection like that in the GOM this time of year.Has there ever been something form in April before?It wouldn't matter because I noticed that SST's are still just a little too cool out there anyway.You're right though;what if it were August?


Pardon the hurricane interruption.... (#80)
Posted by: Steve Location: Old Metaire, LA
Posted On 11:03AM 10-Apr-2002 with id (RPXNRTXNRSQNUX*)
>>I'm with you ,Rob.It is weird to see a convection like that in the GOM this time of year.Has there ever been something form in April before?It wouldn't matter because I noticed that SST's are still just a little too cool out there anyway.You're right though;what if it were August?

Bastardi called it a vortex max. It looks like an upper low that will be at the mouth of the Mississippi river by Friday (according to his spring map analysis video). Between this item and the warmcore subtropical system developing in the central Atlantic, we've got some action in April. This rules. Btw, the area got between 4-6 inches of rain on Monday. There was this one thunderclap right by my house - two of my kids said their hair was standing up on their arms. It was an almost instantaneous strike of lightning and clap of thunder. I had to guess it hit within a few blocks of the house.

Steve



Steve (#81)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland
Posted On 11:10AM 10-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
No chance of development,but it looks like you may have some rain coming your way,again.There is some action but it is kind of sad that it is still to early for development.


vortmax (#82)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posted On 11:19AM 10-Apr-2002 with id (QRXNQXVNQRSNQYS*)
there was a goofy little twist to the convection that came ashore on the panhandle yesterday, too. i guess these are just springtime MCCs or something. nice to know there is a .001% chance of something developing in april.


Maybe some action? (#83)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland
Posted On 11:54AM 10-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
I just watched Joe B's video and the first thing he talked about was the circulation in the Atlantic.You don't think that something could actually happen out there,DO YOU?!?!?!


BOC (#84)
Posted by: Bill Location: TLH
Posted On 11:56AM 10-Apr-2002 with id (RPTNQQPNRQRNXR*)
It really looked ominous earlier this morning, didn't it? Seems to have elongated a bit, still a 'hot' core tho. Temps in that area 25-26 degrees; looks more like June, not April.

There has been one ST storm in April, that I recall; developed in the ATL I believe.


Interesting to say the least! And...there is a w/c storm developing in the ATL..who says? Just wonderd.

IHS,

Bill


2002 Atlantic Season Forecast (#85)
Posted by:
Rich Byett (http://www.stormwarn2000.com) Location: Gloucester, England, UK
Posted On 01:24PM 10-Apr-2002 with id (RQSNQRRNQXVNQUX*)
StormWarn2000 has issued its forecast for the North Atlantic 2002 Hurricane Season as follows:

Total Tropical Cyclones: 15
Tropical Depressions: 2
Troical Storms: 6
Hurricanes (Cat 1 and 2): 4
Major Hurricanes (Cat 3, 4, and 5): 3


Forecast (#86)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 01:45PM 10-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
Does that forecast include any storms that might form before the official start of the season? hahahah!!!Hey,Steve,that w/c low in the Atlantic is coming right for us...lol!


Bill & Shawn... (#87)
Posted by: Steve Location: Old Metaire, LA
Posted On 02:38PM 10-Apr-2002 with id (RPXNRTXNRSQNUX*)
Bill,

http://www.accuweather.com/adcbin/news_index?nav=meteo&type=jbs

Go watch bastardi's meterological map discussion on the right side of the page.

Shawn,

It's going to be a Cat-5 and hit both of us :). Who was the guy in South Alabama who had 'em all hitting him last year? That was a riot.

Steve


SST's (#88)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 02:49PM 10-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
Does the water temp NEED to be 80 or above or can something form if the SST's are a degree or two cooler than 80? Just wondering.


Palms (#89)
Posted by: No Name
Posted On 04:13PM 10-Apr-2002 with id (VUNSUNWPNRST*)
Have you hugged a Teddy Bear Palm today?


A Few Answers!!! (#90)
Posted by:
TropicalWxWatcher Location: New Orleans, Louisiana
Posted On 04:39PM 10-Apr-2002 with id (VVNQUWNVXNQVR*)
#1 A tropical storm has developed in each month at least one time. There was one offseason storm in April. Yes, it was subtropical. Here is a forecast track graphic:

http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1992/SUBTROP_1/track.gif

#2 The convection you see in the Gulf is related to an upper level disturbance. There is no chance of this low developing any further. The shear in that area is about 40 knots, ssts are still a little too cool for development and there is a lot of subsidence on the western side. In addition, this low is only subtropical at best.

#3 The sea surface doesn't have to be 80 degrees for a tropical storm to develop. Other conditions would have to be very favorable for development to sustain the system. Usually, when storms develop under these conditions, they never become truely tropical. Conditions just aren't there for any developmant at this time.

#4 The best chance for any kind of development over the next week would be from the low in the central Atlantic. However, chances for that are less than 1% in my opinion.


Posting (#91)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 05:57PM 10-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
WOW!! 91 postings and we are a month and a half away from the start of hurricane season.I can only imagine what it will be like when there is actually some activity to talk about.


Why can't it be June?? (#92)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 08:14PM 10-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
The activity in the GOM is firing up again.If it would have just waiting a little longer the elements may have been in favor of some development,but it is just too early.Maybe we'll have convection like that on June 1 and then we can have something to talk about.


Boring and wait until June 1, 2002 ?? (#93)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 04:41AM 11-Apr-2002 with id (RPYNRTPNRRRNQSQ*)
SAME NUMBER HERE

There are 50 days until Atlantic hurricane season.

Hawaii is our 50th state !!! lol


Rain!!! (#94)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 12:45PM 11-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
It looks like some places along the gulf coast are going to get quite alot of rain today and tonight with that weak upper low in the north GOM.


weird stuff (#95)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posted On 04:00PM 11-Apr-2002 with id (QRXNQXVNQRSNQYS*)
the gulf low just off louisiana and the cutoff near 27/50 are amusing to watch. they would both be of much interest if it weren't april.


HankFrank (#96)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 04:06PM 11-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
I've been watching them all day,too.It is about the only thing worth looking at right now.June can't come too soon for me!


Here too (#97)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 06:54PM 11-Apr-2002 with id (VTNQRNQPSNQVQ*)
Heavy rain in South Florida yesterday and today. It looks like summer now. I surprised !!!


2002 Atlantic hurricane season (#98)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 06:53AM 12-Apr-2002 with id (VTNQRNQPTNRQ*)
SAME NUMBER HERE

There are 49 days until hurricane season

Alaska is our 49th state!! lol


El Nino (#99)
Posted by:
Lonny Location: Hollywood Fl.
Posted On 08:10AM 12-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYXNQWQ*)
They say in the morning paper that we could feel the effects on El Nino by July. I don't even see a mild El Nino yet. I think there jumping the gun a little early.


#100 (#100)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 12:19PM 12-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
Not much to say;just wanted to be #100 on the postings.I'll be back when things start to heat up.


el nino and low (#101)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posted On 02:28PM 12-Apr-2002 with id (QRXNQXVNQRSNQYS*)
just look at the sst anomaly map. warm pool west of peru, mild plume extending west along the equator. doesnt have to be 1997 with 5 degree anomalies over half the pacific for it to be el nino.
anyway, surprised nobody is yakking about that low off the alabama coast. pretty good radar signature, but not really tropical. not your run of the mill extratropical low either. if it deepens any id bet on it being a subtrop.


HankFrank (#102)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 02:46PM 12-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
I see what you are saying about the low off the Alabama coast,but I don't think it will deepen because it is too close to land and before too long it will cross over into the Atlantic where the waters are even colder.Do you think it has a shot at deepening into a subtrop?


Low (#103)
Posted by: Joe Location: St.Petersburg,FL
Posted On 03:24PM 12-Apr-2002 with id (VVNQYNWVNQYT*)
Its providing FL with some welcome rains. Considering this is are driest month at least in Tampa. Models keep this upper low spinning in ne gulf through Sunday then it gets kicked east by the S/W which will pass to north. Don't think theres any chance of it developing.


well (#104)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posted On 04:08PM 12-Apr-2002 with id (QRXNQXVNQRSNQYS*)
looks closed, slowly spinning nnw off baldwin co alabama. lowest sfc obs i saw was 1017mb, some 20-25kt winds out there. not really changing much, just a weak semi-convective low. ssts are near 70 near the coast and environment is warm but this would need a cutoff cold core upper environment to develop warm core inside, and the upper low around it isnt all that cold... probably cant sustain anything more than what you see.


Boating (#105)
Posted by: cane man Location: St. Petersburg
Posted On 04:16PM 12-Apr-2002 with id (RPYNRRPNRTWNSR*)
Suppose to go boating tomorrow. Does anyone know if this little system will be gone by AM tomorrow? Thanks for any help. Getting pretty good rains here-started about an hour ago and looks stacked up just offshore.


Cane Man (#106)
Posted by: Joe Location: St.Petersburg,FL
Posted On 05:31PM 12-Apr-2002 with id (VVNQYNWWNUW*)
Looked over NWS Tampa marine forecast. For this weekend... Winds 10 to 15 kts...seas 2 to 3 feet...scatered mainly late day and evening showers and storms. Weak impulses will ride around the upper/sfc low in NE Gulf. So showers and storms may pop up at any time. Looked over RUC model and has the next impulse rotating in early Sat morning. Hope this helps.


Rainy here in central Florida. (#107)
Posted by:
Kevin Location: Orlando, Florida
Posted On 11:11PM 12-Apr-2002 with id (QVXNQYQNYQNRRQ*)
It's rained on and off here all day. I was at school and at about 11 it started raining. Cloudy and cool as well. All of this is from a little cutoff low in the GOMEX. Absolutely no chance of subtropical development, much less tropical development. Sure is an interesting feature, though. Now, if it were late May the little low might have done something different...


No rain! (#108)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 12:05AM 13-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
I just want some rain so I can have something to look at while I pass the time away while waiting for June 1.It doesn't appear like that is going to happen anytime soon,though.Dry as a bone.


Enjoy and same number (#109)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 01:17AM 13-Apr-2002 with id (VTNQRNQPTNSQ*)
There are 48 days until Atlantic hurricane season

Arizona is our 48th state!


useful graphic (#110)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posted On 10:44AM 13-Apr-2002 with id (QRXNQXVNQRSNQYS*)
this page has some lots of good resources on historic ENSO. check out the reynolds sst anomalies for the last year, especially from december to march. change is pretty dramatic.

http://www.coaps.fsu.edu/research/ENSO.shtml

we should have something before august as in el nino years the activity comes sooner but with less of an august to october frenzy.


El Nino (#111)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 11:54AM 13-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
I agree that we should have something pretty early on this season,BUT I remember back in '83 when Alicia hit here, that was in August of an El Nino year.Also,wasn't Andrew in '92 towards the latter part of the season;I think '92 was El Nino,also.Maybe it is just me,but it seems,at least in the past few El Nino seasons,that the gulf coast is the prime target for these storms.Maybe that is why Texas seems to be the greatest risk this year.Who knows?!?!


coastal real estate not for sale (#112)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posted On 05:58PM 13-Apr-2002 with id (QRXNQXVNQRSNQYS*)
explain to me the logic in this: the southern state with the least vulnerable coastline to hurricanes is also the one with the least developed coastline. most of it is wildlife preserve and such. well, the tidal amplitude is higher here than in most places so surge danger is high, but a powerful hurricane hasnt hit here since 1898, a there hasnt been one at all since 1979. there were several strong ones during the 1800s, though. some of you will know what state i'm talking about. place is well past due for getting hit.


Hank... (#113)
Posted by: Steve Location: Old Metairie, LA
Posted On 07:48PM 13-Apr-2002 with id (VWNRTXNRQXNYT*)
I gotta guess you're talking about Georgia.

Steve


HankFrank and Steve (#114)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 08:01PM 13-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
I think these storms are going to travel a little bit further west than Georgia this year.I think all the elements will be there this year in the GOM for there to be some interesting and anxious moments for all of us on the gulf coast.Remember last year there was always that one thing that wasn't in place for the storms to really get going;some of us even thought there was some "foul play" involved.El Nino years always seem to be a little more interesting than what the predictions say.


Also (#115)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 08:03PM 13-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
Is anyone else still showing only 111 postings even though we are on 115?


Enjoy and same number (#116)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 07:57AM 14-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPQNWX*)
There are 47 days until Atlantic hurricane season

New Mexico is our 47th state!


Same year !!! (#117)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 08:09AM 14-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPQNWX*)
New Mexico became the 47th state on Jan. 6, 1912.
Arizona became the 48th state on Feb. 14, 1912.

Titanic was sank by an iceberg on Apr. 14-15, 1912.


Guess what? The World Book Encyclopedia (#118)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 08:35AM 14-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPQNWX*)
The Titanic had been the largest ship in the world. by Encyclopedia

Atlantic hurricanes seasons on record!!!
1912- Titanic
1914- 0 hurricanes
1925- 1 hurricane
1982- 2 hurricanes
1994- 3 hurricanes
2002- 4 hurricanes or MORE!
Increase in hurricanes expected.


This weekend! (#119)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 08:42AM 14-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPQNWX*)
Titanic will be 90 years this weekend!!!!!!


The encyclopedia: The Titanic had been the largest ship in the world (#120)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 08:51AM 14-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPQNWX*)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!


The World Book Encyclopedia (#121)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 08:59AM 14-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPQNWX*)
The Titanic had been the largest ship in the world, 882.5 feet (269 meters) long, with a gross tonnage of 46,328.


Hurricane activity has been on the rise since the 1995 season, Gray said. (#122)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 02:24PM 14-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPQNVX*)
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/hurricane/stories/2001/2001-12-07-gray-2002-forecast.htm


What's Wrong? (#123)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 08:00PM 14-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
Have I been kicked off this site already?I'm still showing only 111 postings.Can anyone explain why?In Houston,we are suppose to get around 90 degrees by the end of the week.It is starting to heat up.


By the way... (#124)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 08:08PM 14-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
Has anyone seen the spin that looks to be coming off of South America and headed towards the Caribbean.I know that waters out there are getting warmer every day.Could we have something interesting to talk about soon? hahahha...lol!!!


list (#125)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posted On 11:54PM 14-Apr-2002 with id (QRXNQXVNQRSNQYS*)
the 2002 list of names has been used 3 times previously. it is of note that the L storm has been reached in ever year this list was used. and the one with only 12 also had a subtrop. there are three new names from 1996 on the list: cristobal, fay and hanna; replacing cesar, fran and hortense. bertha is back for another go, as is edouard. in el nino years it is usually storms near the front of the list that get retired. so that weird name isidore will probably be around for another year.


same number (#126)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 06:43AM 15-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYSNSQ*)
There are 46 days until Atlantic hurricane season.

Oklahoma is our 46th state!


ENGLISH LANGUAGE (#127)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 04:04PM 15-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPWNTY*)
The World Book Encyclopedia:

Italian, like English, belongs to the Indo-European family of languages.


Normal!! (#128)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 08:50PM 15-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
I guess everything is back to normal;I'm now showing the right number of postings.


Hurricanes (#129)
Posted by:
Craig Selvig Location: Fairview
Posted On 12:50PM 16-Apr-2002 with id (RPXNQSVNQRUNRTU*)




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