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Steve
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Re: Tony,Tony,Tony
      #2541 - Mon Sep 02 2002 02:35 PM

No problem. I ain't squat. I'm just a denizen of the tropics like the rest of you. I'll gladly sacrifice a minor injury for a landfall, but that would have to be scrapes, cuts and bruises ONLY.

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Frank P
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Hey Shawn
      #2542 - Mon Sep 02 2002 02:35 PM

You know my opinion on models.... Unfortunately my wife won't let me have any .... geesh

Steve, Ive been watching the GOM for the past 24 hours, northern edge has a nice curvature to it, but nothing yet to get it kick started... sure looks like it wants to get something going....

If old Eddie cross Fl, enters the GOM, develops into a major hurricane, then I'll start paying more attention to the GFDL... but this year its been a very poor performer... Hey, I certainly don't know where it going, so I end up getting abused by the models just like everyone else... they're all we got.... should be an interesting next week to say the least...


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Re: Tropical Depression 5 forms 130 miles ESE of Daytona
      #2543 - Mon Sep 02 2002 02:47 PM

We're having a terrible storm here in the St. Pete area.

Steve could be right. Fl is starting to look like lunch meat between 2 slices of bread. : Toni

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StormHound
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Re: Hey Shawn
      #2544 - Mon Sep 02 2002 02:50 PM

The southwest track is really starting to look likely. The question, as always, is how long he takes to start moving. The GFDL has Eddie turning into a Cat 2 or 3 before landfall, by my calculations. If the GFDL is right on target long range (very doubtful, of course) New Orleans may finally get that scary one we've always talked about. An interesting week lies ahead!

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Joe
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Re: Hey Shawn
      #2545 - Mon Sep 02 2002 03:26 PM

I'am not even about to try an say where eddie will end up. But believe a west or southwest track is ok to go with for now. Considering local NWS's offices seem to agree. Hopefully we will start to see a clearer picture over the next couple of days.

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Bruce
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Re: Tropical Depression 5 forms 130 miles ESE of Daytona
      #2546 - Mon Sep 02 2002 03:34 PM

I have heard that the Tropical Storm Warning has been lowered into North Florida. Anyone else hear this?

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Joe
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Re: Tropical Depression 5 forms 130 miles ESE of Daytona
      #2547 - Mon Sep 02 2002 03:38 PM

No Bruce haven't heard that. If they do anyting it wouldn't be until later this afternoon. Think they can go ahead and drop georgia TS warning though. Who did you hear that from Bruce?

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Bruce
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Re: Tropical Depression 5 forms 130 miles ESE of Daytona
      #2548 - Mon Sep 02 2002 03:44 PM

A Chat Room

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Bruce
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Re: Tropical Depression 5 forms 130 miles ESE of Daytona
      #2549 - Mon Sep 02 2002 03:45 PM

Said they heard it on TV, maybe they meant it would be at 5pm

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57497479
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Re: Tropical Depression 5 forms 130 miles ESE of Daytona
      #2550 - Mon Sep 02 2002 03:50 PM

Hey Bruce, Have't heard any thing but I have been off the computer for a while and unable to listen to TWC. The last I heard was that Ed was starting to move E -SE so it will only make since if he continues in that direction that they will at least have to extend the watch/warning area farther down the coast. Will be back on line soon again. Keep us informed. Toni

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Alan
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New GDFL
      #2551 - Mon Sep 02 2002 03:51 PM

The new GFDL has Eddie entering at Palm Coast, going down I-4 and stalling around Tampa. It then has it very slowly moving up the coast as a cat 1.
That is the last thing Florida needs as we are flooded in many places.


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Re: Gulf beginning to brew?
      #2552 - Mon Sep 02 2002 04:03 PM

palm coast has a toll bridge or at least use to so unless he has change he may not get far!

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Re: New GDFL
      #2553 - Mon Sep 02 2002 04:05 PM

Is the GFDL the outliar in the model systems? I am talking statistical outlyer not out and out falsehood prognosticator. Because the only pressure readings I am getting anywhere are not very low. Is there any more reliable models out there and what are they saying? I can't read them. Not educated enough.

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Re: pressure drop
      #2554 - Mon Sep 02 2002 04:26 PM

Pressures at the 41010 (120 miles E of C Canaveral) have drop from 29.96 at 11am to 29.88 at 4pm

at 41009 just of Cape Canavera pressure has droped from 29.97 at 11am to 29.90 at 4pm... the biggest or most stustained pressure drop trend with this yet...


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Steve
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Re: New GDFL
      #2555 - Mon Sep 02 2002 04:33 PM

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/float-vis-loop.html

Still looks 'mostly' stationary but perhaps a jog a bit to the ENE is evident in the last couple of frames.

Quasi-tropical day here in the Crescent City. It's been overcast and a little breezy today. Several shower bands have been moving E to W across areas of SE LA and Coastal MS. There is a nice arc just south of the coast that would represent a stregthening eyewall if this was a classified storm. This might be good to know down the line, especially if a low pressure gets on the map tomorrow as I suspect it will. We'll stay on the wet side for a couple of days, but this would probably be a SW LA/TX problem down the line. Of course the building convection may not be a diurnal or timing thing more than energy from the wave to it's S and SW entraining some potency, but it's still worth noting.

Surface winds at the buoys show that spin is evident from some of the NNE/N winds on Upper TX Coast to the E/NE winds in the north central Gulf to some of the SSW winds further south off the TX Coast.

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Re: Gulf beginning to brew?
      #2556 - Mon Sep 02 2002 04:39 PM

yep we do have the toll bridge still here in Palm Coast (costs me an arm and a leg to get to work everyday!) Sure hope "Eddy" decides on another location to visit and this forecast track does not varify.........so many residents of Flagler county think we are immune to a landfall from the east.... Enjoy the hol's all

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Re: New GDFL
      #2557 - Mon Sep 02 2002 04:42 PM

Models in fair agreement with differences in strength. This should prove to be one intresting week!

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Kevin
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Edouard's movement and what it may mean for future intensity.
      #2558 - Mon Sep 02 2002 04:52 PM

Edouard was moving east as of 2:00 P.M. It looks to me like this could mean more of a central Florida hit than a northern one. This is simply because the loop would occur further offshore. This could also allow for intensification into a hurricane even!
Any thoughts? Off to check Melbourne NWS discussion. 5:00 PM NHC update comming soon as well.

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Kevin
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NWS Melbourne discussion
      #2559 - Mon Sep 02 2002 04:56 PM

They seem fairly uncertain on possible local wind/tornado impacts. One thing appears certain though: plenty of rain.
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/data/MIA/AFD/MIAAFDMLB.RECENT.txt

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Steve
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Hey Shawn,
      #2560 - Mon Sep 02 2002 05:23 PM

You awake over there?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/trop-atl.html#GMEX

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/gmex-vis-loop.html

(only good for another hour or so)

http://seaboard.ndbc.noaa.gov/Maps/WestGulf.shtml

Pressures still falling. 42001 (Mid Gulf) at 29.87 S10; 42041(North Mid Gulf) 29.95 SE @ 13.6k; BURL1 (Buras) 29.91SE 15; 42002 (25.17 x 94.42) 29.94 N 7.8k.

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