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andy1tom
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Re: Category II Charley takes aim at the Gulf Coast of Florida [Re: BillD]
      #19624 - Thu Aug 12 2004 09:59 PM

they will stick to their forecast unless something makes it change. the models are just one thing used in making the forecast. when i say something makes it change not just talking about a zig or zag but a trend of movement.. took me forever to understand that and i still don't agree with some of their forecast but overall they are pretty right

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hurricane_run
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Re: Category II Charley takes aim at the Gulf Coast of Florida [Re: Unregistered User]
      #19625 - Thu Aug 12 2004 10:00 PM

They have a flood watch up for the Mid-Atlantic and NE because of Bonnie and Charley.

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ShaggyDude
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Re: Category II Charley takes aim at the Gulf Coast of Florida [Re: Rasvar]
      #19627 - Thu Aug 12 2004 10:00 PM

For those of you trying to track the direction of Charley, try this site on a long animation loop. Also, can anyone post the site of the cuban radar? Thanks
http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goeseastnheir.html


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LI Phil
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We will address those issues tomorrow or Saturday [Re: Unregistered User]
      #19628 - Thu Aug 12 2004 10:01 PM

Last poster,

Your governor just resigned in discrase, but that's not what's important now. Yeah, I live in LI (on LI) and I'll be getting Bonnie and Charley's remnants, and I consider myself lucky.

There are folks who are about to get hit by two tropical systems in less than 24 hours...HISTORY...so that's the main story for now.

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BillD
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Re: Category II Charley takes aim at the Gulf Coast of Florida [Re: ShaggyDude]
      #19629 - Thu Aug 12 2004 10:04 PM

This is a direct link to the animated gif of the cienfuego radar.

cienfuego radar

Bill


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hurricane_run
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Re: Category II Charley takes aim at the Gulf Coast of Florida [Re: BillD]
      #19630 - Thu Aug 12 2004 10:05 PM

Thanks i could only get the main page.

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cyclone_head
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Re: Category II Charley takes aim at the Gulf Coast of Florida [Re: BillD]
      #19631 - Thu Aug 12 2004 10:05 PM

Hey BillD...
Thanks for the clarification...and ...never stop posting...

smiles...


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Happy Birthday Londovir
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Re: Thanks Troy [Re: LI Phil]
      #19632 - Thu Aug 12 2004 10:05 PM

Apologize if this was mentioned already -- 8:55pm recon fix found 97kt winds, so it's a little stronger than last recon, but the eyewall is still ragged and elongated. The pressure is still low around 976, but interesting that the temperatures are a little higher than they were earlier....

This sucker still wants to ride to the right of the model runs a bit. Stubborn little bugger...

Londovir


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Re: Just for your info [Re: WeatherNLU]
      #19633 - Thu Aug 12 2004 10:06 PM

More info to know: Havana is at 23.13N, 82.38W if you want to use it as a yard stick as to where Chuckie is.I think the offical track was to take it closer toward a city called Mariel, a little west of Havana. Sorry for using Havana as a yardstick, I'm sure for the most part they'll be OK.

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ShaggyDude
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Re: Category II Charley takes aim at the Gulf Coast of Florida [Re: BillD]
      #19634 - Thu Aug 12 2004 10:06 PM

Thank You, Bill
Greatly Appreciated


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PFSThunder
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Re: Category II Charley takes aim at the Gulf Coast of Florida [Re: BillD]
      #19635 - Thu Aug 12 2004 10:06 PM

I was about to join the "Charley has started the move North" crowd but it seems by looking at the Key West radar, that the storm is still in a NNW move. The feeder bands are still trending NW and the eye is showing the same movement. Other opinions are welcome.

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hurricane_run
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Re: Winds Pressure [Re: Londovir]
      #19636 - Thu Aug 12 2004 10:08 PM

The pressure will fall a the winds will follow.

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ChrisT
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Re: We will address those issues tomorrow or Saturday [Re: LI Phil]
      #19637 - Thu Aug 12 2004 10:08 PM

Last recon a little before 9PM reported 976mb and peak flight level wind of 97kts. Eye wall was still circular but a little ragged - open on the NW-NNE side. Good convection SW-E eyewall. Radar presentation looks impressive.

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WeatherNLU
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Re: Category II Charley takes aim at the Gulf Coast of Florida [Re: PFSThunder]
      #19638 - Thu Aug 12 2004 10:11 PM

I think we are all right. It's not due North yet, but it is trending that way. There is still some westerly motion in the system, but not much at this point.

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ShaggyDude
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Re: Category II Charley takes aim at the Gulf Coast of Florida [Re: PFSThunder]
      #19639 - Thu Aug 12 2004 10:12 PM

Yeah, I'm all for looking at any devations from a northern track. I do see slight corrections to NNW every once and a while, but I still see a solid northerly component, and for some reason, it's seems there to stay. Counterpoint?

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Re: Category II Charley takes aim at the Gulf Coast of Florida [Re: nickd]
      #19640 - Thu Aug 12 2004 10:13 PM

Nickd:

I haven't been through many evacs, but I can tell you to be very careful evac'ing from Clearwater beach as late as 6am. If the winds get bad and choppy weather, they're going to start shutting down the Courtney Cambell, Howard Franklin, etc. You shouldn't have anything to worry about leaving at 6am - except! - keep in mind they are advising Hillsborough to begin its evac around 6am also, so you could get stuck in malfunction junction if you plan on heading past Tampa eastward.

Keep in mind there were 2-3 hour delays today/tonight on all 3 main bridges out of Pinellas....if Charley keeps on a path this way, it's only gonna get worse as time goes on....

Good luck!

Londovir


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LI Phil
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For the history books [Re: joepub1]
      #19642 - Thu Aug 12 2004 10:15 PM

Someone pointed this out last september during "isabel" that with the possible future implications of such a storm, perhaps we shouldn't be referring to this storm as anything but ISABEL. Same goes for this one, this storm is not " not chuck, chuckie, chas, etc, but 04 Charley.

Because, until all is said and done, this just might be one for the record books. Not saying this is '69 camille and we would have referred to her as "cammy", but you do get the drift.

Bonnie is gone, but Charley is here...for now.

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WeatherNLU
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Re: Category II Charley takes aim at the Gulf Coast of Florida [Re: Londovir]
      #19643 - Thu Aug 12 2004 10:16 PM

8PM EDT was 21.7N 82.3 W

I have it at 9:45PM EDT at 22.1N 82.4W

Just about due north.

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hurricane_run
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Re: Category II Charley takes aim at the Gulf Coast of Florida [Re: WeatherNLU]
      #19644 - Thu Aug 12 2004 10:21 PM

It is moving north with the occasional westward jog.

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Wxwatcher2
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Re: Category II Charley takes aim at the Gulf Coast of Florida [Re: WeatherNLU]
      #19645 - Thu Aug 12 2004 10:23 PM

Charley is apparently moving North now.
Can someone tell me why I should not beileve
that it will turn toward the NNE before reaching the Tampa area and then head inland through the Orlando area?
Does anyone see a due North course for 360 miles to Tampa before drifting East a bit?
Of course Charley could be just be going due North to get past Cuba and then wobble a bit West but it looks like a Northerly trend has been set.....yes?


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