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BabyCat
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Re: Up close and personal [Re: SkeetoBite]
      #22929 - Wed Sep 01 2004 11:51 PM

Great graphic!!
Can you pull it out over the water before it makes landfall to incorporate in Broward County?


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danielwAdministrator
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Re: H2Ocean [Re: StormHound]
      #22931 - Wed Sep 01 2004 11:51 PM

Slosh models for the Central FL Coast . Use these to make your decisions, but read the disclaimer first. These are models.
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/mlb/atlas.html


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LoisCane
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Re: Track Shift [Re: BillD]
      #22932 - Wed Sep 01 2004 11:52 PM

Okay..watching Norcross live here talking different possibilities and advice.

City had a real feel to it earlier while I was out. Wanted to get a few more things..went to local .99cents store that was open and busy. Couldn't pay me to go to Publix tonight. Heard shelves were partially empty and people looking lost roaming around wondering what to buy. Sharp contrast from the ones that were in their Tuesday morning when we were shopping holding lists in their hands. A few towering thunderheads .. bits of lightning and fast moving showers on a faster breeze. Packed gas stations. The feel of something happening in the air even before the word that maybe the high is stronger than the GFS and GFDL thought..

Will see.
Think the track will be drawn down closer to WPB. Spent hours and hours looking over storm tracks today during slow times.

Maybe WPB/Broward county line but dont think lower.

Then again.. maybe I am in denial.

Didn't post much today. In meetings at the library a few times to discuss storm and arrangements for tomorrow. City job.. And, busy doing things... but have enjoyed reading all your posts.. thanks..

Bobbi

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DroopGB31
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Re: Up close and personal [Re: SkeetoBite]
      #22933 - Wed Sep 01 2004 11:52 PM

Well 00Z GFS doesnt look to have responded much to the new data. I dont understand it, what is out there that will make Frances stall? Aghhhhhhhh

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indialanticwes
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Re: H2Ocean [Re: danielw]
      #22934 - Wed Sep 01 2004 11:53 PM

What a great post. I was just looking at the SLOSH charts. Things don't look so good in Indialantic!

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MIAMIFL
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Re: stewart's piece [Re: Unregistered User]
      #22935 - Wed Sep 01 2004 11:53 PM

i am of the strong opinion that many of the models are using historical data in conjunction with current recon....the historical data is likely causing the models to keep right of the possible westward track....Floyd, David, countless others....IDEAS REGARDING THIS THINKING?

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lis
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Re: Track Shift [Re: LoisCane]
      #22936 - Wed Sep 01 2004 11:53 PM

I am in fort lauderdale and scared to death. Do you think I have time to get out of the state now?

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SkeetoBiteAdministrator
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Re: Up close and personal [Re: Unregistered User]
      #22937 - Wed Sep 01 2004 11:54 PM

We're building a house in South Lakeland on Crews Lake Drive. Probably be a stick pile by Labor Day though.

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john03
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Re: more west movement? [Re: Colleen A.]
      #22938 - Wed Sep 01 2004 11:54 PM

may just be me or my eyes......she's moving more west now i think......look at all sats....

she looks to be a cat 5!
GOES-12 satellite has -75 to -85 cloud temps on west and east side..... man the eye must be over 35miles wide


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meto
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Re: Track Shift [Re: Unregistered User]
      #22939 - Wed Sep 01 2004 11:55 PM

ch.11 in fort meyers just said this monster may now go in more south and west than thought. and scott you laughed when i said i thought this could be a cat. 5 down the road it may be near that in a few days....thnx...

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DroopGB31
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Re: Up close and personal [Re: DroopGB31]
      #22940 - Wed Sep 01 2004 11:56 PM

Well, maybe I should wait before I make any statement like that.

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cdbeavers
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Re: Hurricane Watches up for the Florida East Coast [Re: MikeC]
      #22941 - Wed Sep 01 2004 11:56 PM

If I may interject... If you look at LBAR's model, unless I am tracking wrong, it seems to be right on the money, so far. Looking at Streamlines of wind currents (I will try to post picture), it shows a strong Westerly flow moving just above Francis. Pushing it more West than WNW... Animated Models - LBAR [picture:

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Colleen A.
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Re: Track Shift [Re: LoisCane]
      #22942 - Wed Sep 01 2004 11:56 PM

Here, too. I went to Walgreen's tonight and the manager was just about pulling his hair out of his head. Publix is a nightmare, Walmart is sold out of water, batteries, etc. I often go with my gut feeling and let's just say the butterflies that were in my stomach have now morphed into pre-historic butterflies.

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erauwx
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Jim Cantore [Re: Colleen A.]
      #22944 - Wed Sep 01 2004 11:59 PM

Just an FYI for anyone interested. I live in Daytona Beach, so I couldn't pass up the opportunity to go down beachside and talk with Jim Cantore from TWC - who was reporting for a good 4 hours here tonight. He says they will be reporting from DB starting 7am .. then heading down to Vero Beach tomorrow afternoon.

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BabyCat
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Re: Track Shift [Re: lis]
      #22945 - Thu Sep 02 2004 12:00 AM

it's 20 hours straight through to New Orleans. In 10 hours you can be in GA.
This is *without* traffic tickets


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scottsvb1
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Re: Jim Cantore [Re: erauwx]
      #22946 - Thu Sep 02 2004 12:02 AM

If i laughed it wasnt that it could briefly reach cat 5 status, but was that you wanted it to go to your house.

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Ricreig
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Re: Hurricane Watches up for the Florida East Coast [Re: GuppieGrouper]
      #22947 - Thu Sep 02 2004 12:02 AM

Quote:

I have been at work all day and have read all the posts and listened to a lot of rumors from people who may or may not know what is going on.
Please explain where the consensus of landfall is expected to be and where it will be if it goes right or left. Central Florida, and specifically Polk County, tends to get ignored from both of the Media coming from Tampa Bay and Orlando. We have been protected in the past some what but the rumors are flying about our vulnerability this time. Please anyone who has any knowledge please comment.


IF, and I repeat IF a trend is developing in the forecast track since about 48 hours ago, it has mostlyl been S&W. This means to me that Polk County will be getting much more attention from Frances than before. Not saying a hit but going from an annoyance to duck occasionally...ok, maybe duck a whole bunch depending on how *far* left the trend might end up. I caution you and myself that a FORECAST is a ficticious thing...It hasn't happened and never will as it is in the future and when it stops being in the future, it is the present and no longer a FOREcast but a report of a historical occurance. By SUNDAY, we'll *all* know what the forecast *should* have been....for now, the apparant trend is more toward you there in POLK. Good luck!!

Live, for now, from Orlando

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Jeffmidtown
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Re: Track Shift [Re: BabyCat]
      #22948 - Thu Sep 02 2004 12:02 AM

and without construction on I-75 around Adel...urgh!

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LI Phil
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How do you responnd... [Re: erauwx]
      #22949 - Thu Sep 02 2004 12:03 AM

to a statement like this...

>>> I am in fort lauderdale and scared to death. Do you think I have time to get out of the state now?

God, and I don't invoke her name lightly, but what can one say? Those with much more experience please give an answer.

My thoughts and prayers (Again) go out to all y'all. And if youre reading, whomever pointed it out. whether it's y'all or ya'll...whatever..get the hell out of harms way.

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Bloodstar
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Re: Track Shift [Re: lis]
      #22950 - Thu Sep 02 2004 12:03 AM

So, if I'm reading Stewart's post correctly, the 0600Z advisory will be the intermediate advisory? Is he saying that they're going to update the track at 2am? and if so, Should we expect Hurricane watches and warnings to come out if they do?

On a side note, I'm probably going to stay up to watch and see what they say about the Tampa area. As much as I worry about people on the east coast, I do have to start worrying about my own hide.

On a side note, Was at Wal-Mart because a friend had to pick up stuff, and they had no water on the shelf. They were pulling more water out, and had placed A bunch of water on the floor for people to just pick up.

(getting another couple of gallons of water ready for the freezer)
Good luck all
Mark


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