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Re: 8 PM [Re: Unregistered User]
      #39336 - Thu Jul 07 2005 08:58 PM

i just checked the last load of waypoints theres been a more northward trend in Dennis but not enogh for it to hit MIA not direcly anyway!

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Re: 8 PM [Re: Hurricane Fredrick 1979]
      #39337 - Thu Jul 07 2005 08:59 PM

Looks like many of the models moved west again.. LOL..But they all appear to have a consenus of Florida/Alabama Line. So hey maybe they are on to something.. then again, maybe not..

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Re: Brief 8pm Update [Re: RedingtonBeachGuy]
      #39338 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:01 PM

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"My advice, from having experienced the exact scenario above is to protect yourself where you are unless you have a VERY good reason for being elsewhere. i.e. You live in a mobile home. "

I TOTALLY disagree with this advice. I have been thru a ton of cains since the 60's down here in Florida and I can tell everyone that it is ALWAYS better to evacuate A and B zones than to ride it out. In one cain in the 60's, we were told to evacuate and didn't.. it was just a Cat 3 we said. We sat thru the winds but didn't expect 15' high walls of water to come cascading down on us 1/2 mile from the Gulf of Mexico. Eventually we were under 9 feet of water on the island.

My point is, while some say they have riden storms out, they have been LUCKY. Don't risk your life - follow emergency management's decision for your area. and zone.




I cannot agree more with Red. Every 50 miles inland is a huge difference in terms of hurricane strength. While the hurricanes caused much distruction in Central Florida, it was generally not life threatening. Even without the windows boarded up, you can ride out a storm in a small-windowless room in the center of the house. It is much better to be in a house which has lost shingles and has water coming in, then a house without a roof or walls. If ordered to evacuate, do so.

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Re: Big Time Dennis [Re: Terra]
      #39339 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:02 PM

It might have been correct. They do post observations on their way to their destination, and on the way back, so everyone can keep tabs on where they are. These planes fly out of locations around the SE US and the Caribbean, so it is not unusual to see coordinates far away from the storm, but usually right at the beginning of a run or end..

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Re: Also [Re: Brett]
      #39340 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:03 PM

Actaully, I have been watching all 6 of those models and 4 panel for CMC and as of right now, nothing from most of the perspectoves has changed since Dennis was named.

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Re: 8 PM [Re: Marco island =[]
      #39341 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:03 PM

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i just checked the last load of waypoints theres been a more northward trend in Dennis but not enogh for it to hit MIA not direcly anyway!




Even if it did hit Miami somehow, it would have traveled across the state of Florida to get there. Miami would be looking at something less than full strength Hurricane Dennis.

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Re: 8 PM [Re: Hurricane Fredrick 1979]
      #39342 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:03 PM

Latest NHC Model run....

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OH NO [Re: BillD]
      #39343 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:04 PM

As a Pensacola resident, I can say nothing is so frightening as seeing Jim Cantore from the weather channel on Pensacola Beach....he is here again!

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modles [Re: Tazmanian93]
      #39344 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:05 PM

Yeah they all seem pretty set...guess it's just who the winner/loser is.

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Re: Brief 8pm Update [Re: RedingtonBeachGuy]
      #39345 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:05 PM

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"My advice, from having experienced the exact scenario above is to protect yourself where you are unless you have a VERY good reason for being elsewhere. i.e. You live in a mobile home. "


<snip>....My point is, while some say they have riden storms out, they have been LUCKY. Don't risk your life - follow emergency management's decision for your area. and zone.




You missed my point entirely. My point was that you just might have to "ride it out" no matter where you evacuate to, so you should be prepared to do exactly that, whether you stay where you are or flee to a county that isn't even under an evacuation order.

I fled because they told me to flee. The windspeed where I fled from never got above 40 mph. I went where they told me to go. There, the windspeed was 140 mph.

That's my point, you simply cannot KNOW where you will be safe, and neither can the experts. Be prepared, prepared, prepared, wherever you are.

I wasn't trying to be brave and ride it out, I was fleeing, trying to keep my family safe. After my experience, I realize that some common sense is in order and that the "officials" don't always have a perfect handle on it.

I had hoped for intelligent discussion on how to protect yourself where you are, and not always relying on "head somewhere else". Because sometimes you can't head somewhere else, you find it on your heels despite trying to get away from it. I am not a brave advocate of "riding it out",. I'm simply a concerned mother trying to keep my family safe.

-Bev


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Re: OH NO [Re: pcola]
      #39346 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:06 PM

Usually that means where it won't go.

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Re: OH NO [Re: pcola]
      #39348 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:07 PM

Then you are lucky I thought hwere ever Jim went the Hurricane was sure not to come.If you do not want him send him our way a little insurance never hurt no one.

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Marco island =[
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Re: modles [Re: twizted sizter]
      #39349 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:07 PM

Any one think marco has a chance of being hit, my grandma is getting worried and is on about evacu??? i wanna stay and wacth it from the beach=]

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Re: Brief 8pm Update [Re: Bev]
      #39350 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:08 PM

uh... wow! The hurricane city broadcast keeps bieng cut in by Will and Grace (they got struck by lightning).

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Re: modles [Re: Marco island =[]
      #39351 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:08 PM

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Any one think marco has a chance of being hit, my grandma is getting worried and is on about evacu??? i wanna stay and wacth it from the beach=]




Not a particularly good idea if it does come your way....

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Re: 8 PM [Re: Storm Hunter]
      #39352 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:09 PM

If people are planning on evacuating into Georgia, your best bet would be anywhere on the eastern part of the state say from Macon to Augusta. The Columbus area got hit pretty hard last night as well as the southern metro counties of Atlanta.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, or it maybe the 2 hours sleep I had last night, but if some of the models are showing Dennis to take a Florida/Alabama track, wouldn't that give it the exact same track as Ivan from last year?

If it is the case, I think I may need to re-inflate my water wings here because Atlanta can't take any more heavy rain....

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Re: Also [Re: Tazmanian93]
      #39353 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:09 PM

CMC Model still shows the same track.. Amazing UK MET and CMC have barely moved off their tracks.

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Re: modles [Re: Marco island =[]
      #39354 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:09 PM

Your local EOC will have evac info...won't comment about you wanting to stay & watch from the beach.

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Re: Brief 8pm Update [Re: StormHound]
      #39355 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:10 PM

Uh-oh - Jim Cantore is now live from Pensacola. Sorry, but I'm happy he isn't in Naples! Collier County Commissioners have called an emergency meeting at 8:30 am Friday morning and I'm guessing they will probably call for a state of emergency unless there is a drastic change for the better overnight. Stores were busy this afternoon but not crazy, same with gas stations. Just moved my orchids from the lanai to the bathtub (aka their summer home) so there is not as much to do tomorrow. Stay safe everyone!

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Re: modles [Re: Terra]
      #39356 - Thu Jul 07 2005 09:10 PM

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Any one think marco has a chance of being hit, my grandma is getting worried and is on about evacu??? i wanna stay and wacth it from the beach=]




Not a particularly good idea if it does come your way....




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