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NewWatcher
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Re: Jose's Landfall and Former Tropical Depression 10 [Re: NewWatcher]
      #48678 - Tue Aug 23 2005 08:43 AM

Check out the Canadian at 144 hrs, I think they are wayyyy too "out there"

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Random Chaos
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Re: Jose's Landfall and Former Tropical Depression 10 [Re: emackl]
      #48679 - Tue Aug 23 2005 08:44 AM

Quote:

Ahhh, still learning all the model pages. Normally I use this one: http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cyclonephase/

Also, I'm stll learning the abbreviations.




Thanks for the link, didn't have that one

The two I usually use are:
Penn State University: http://met.psu.edu/tropical/tcgengifs/ (GFS, NOGAPS, GFDL, CMC, and WRF)
Florida State University: http://moe.met.fsu.edu/tcgengifs/ (GFS, NOGAPS, GFDL, CMC, UMKET, and MM5)

To make them work:
1. You have to have JavaScript enabled (this is default on all browsers, so unless you changed it you don't have to worry)
2. Click the "FWD" button after it finishes loading the images (you'll know when your Firefox/IE loading logo stops animating).


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Rich B
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Re: Jose's Landfall and Former Tropical Depression 10 [Re: emackl]
      #48680 - Tue Aug 23 2005 08:48 AM

Visible imagery would appear to suggest that something may be forming just off the eastern coast of Cuba about midway between Cuba and Great Inagua, Bahamas. Certainly a strong convective flareup and evidence of decent outflow.

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NewWatcher
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Re: Jose's Landfall and Former Tropical Depression 10 [Re: Rich B]
      #48681 - Tue Aug 23 2005 08:50 AM

Hey Rich,
Do you have some co-ords close so I can take a peek? Please
I always seem to have a hard time finding the centers this early

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Ron Basso
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Re: Jose's Landfall and Former Tropical Depression 10 [Re: Rich B]
      #48682 - Tue Aug 23 2005 08:55 AM

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Visible imagery would appear to suggest that something may be forming just off the eastern coast of Cuba about midway between Cuba and Great Inagua, Bahamas. Certainly a strong convective flareup and evidence of decent outflow.




I agree, Rich, looking at the IR SAT (not always good to detect circulations), I see a CC spin about 21N-74.5W in the general location u described. Looks to be moving slowly W-NW.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/watl-ir4-loop.html

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Rich B
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Re: Jose's Landfall and Former Tropical Depression 10 [Re: Ron Basso]
      #48683 - Tue Aug 23 2005 09:04 AM

Difficult to locate a possible LLCC with this one, especially as it may not even be there. I would guess looking at the visible imagery, that if there is a centre it is probably somewhere around 21.1'N 74.9'W. However, the low level cloudlines dont give much support to there being a LLCC in this region, so it may be just at the mid-levels at the moment.

Also noticed that our friend 97L has a LLCC in the vicinty of 17.5'N 36.8'W. However, the convection is removed to the east of this centre. Certainly something else worth watching though

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NONAME
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Re: Jose's Landfall and Former Tropical Depression 10 [Re: Ron Basso]
      #48684 - Tue Aug 23 2005 09:08 AM

Atlantic Ocean Basin: Imagery

DATE/TIME LAT LON CLASSIFICATION STORM

10 T-Numbers

23/1145 UTC 21.3N 74.1W T1.0/1.0 10
23/0615 UTC 20.8N 73.2W TOO WEAK 10
22/2345 UTC 20.7N 72.9W TOO WEAK 10

97LINVEST T-numbers

23/1145 UTC 17.1N 36.2W T1.5/1.5 97
23/0600 UTC 17.1N 35.0W TOO WEAK 97
22/2330 UTC 16.8N 33.9W TOO WEAK 97
22/1730 UTC 17.0N 32.6W TOO WEAK 97
22/1200 UTC 16.1N 31.2W TOO WEAK 97
22/0600 UTC 14.1N 27.3W TOO WEAK 97L

Looks like 10 and 97's T-number are on the rise 97 could beat 10 to an named storm. Here is the site I got my info from though.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/positions.html

I think we will have TD 12 by 11 and 10 redevloped at 5

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Edited by NONAME (Tue Aug 23 2005 09:10 AM)


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Ron Basso
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Re: Jose's Landfall and Former Tropical Depression 10 [Re: NONAME]
      #48685 - Tue Aug 23 2005 09:15 AM

Ship Report at 12Z:

MANE 12 21.5 -74.4 250 19.0 - - - 29.87

Location at 21.5N 74.4W reports WSW wind at 19kts.

Getting some confirmation on maybe a LLC developing.

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Re: Jose's Landfall and Former Tropical Depression 10 [Re: Ron Basso]
      #48686 - Tue Aug 23 2005 09:32 AM

sorry for the stupid question but what is the Storm Floater 2 on? Do you think they may change it today to something that I personally would find more interesting?..LOL!

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NONAME
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Re: Jose's Landfall and Former Tropical Depression 10 [Re: emackl]
      #48687 - Tue Aug 23 2005 09:39 AM

I think that is what is left of extratropical system of Irene. On the storm floater2.

what's left of irene is up near greenland. that's just someone being lazy and not retraining the floater on something interesting to look at. unless partly to mostly cloudy skies in the north atlantic is buzzworthy... -HF

Edited by HanKFranK (Tue Aug 23 2005 09:45 AM)


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HanKFranK
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visibles [Re: Ron Basso]
      #48688 - Tue Aug 23 2005 09:43 AM

that wind report kinda checks out with what i can see down there. there's an elongated closed low just north and west (around 22/75) the deep convection. i didn't expect it, but it looks like that upper low has strengthened to the northeast and is infusing dry air in from the north... around 15kt of shear again, too. synoptic pattern still favors this thing developing, but it's going to do it slowly. center might redevelop to the east or south as just to the east there's a diffluent outflow/shortwave ridge region.
soi has dropped negative again the last couple of days... as long as it keeps doing that the upper lows in the basin are going to keep harrassing nearby features.
away east, 97L had its t-rating jump from too weak to 1.5. that's just a function of the convective ball that started clining to the east side overnight.. the system probably isn't generating much different winds than before. it's the equivalent of a 25-30kt depression right now... the NHC doesn't like to classify these until they have a persistent convective core; this one is marginal (depend's who's making the calls, really). they'll probably do it at 11. no reason not to; it's very likely to be a tropical storm tomorrow.
HF 1343z23august


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Beach
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What the H@#% [Re: HanKFranK]
      #48689 - Tue Aug 23 2005 10:03 AM

None of these Operation Centers are showing current Info.

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/MUMO.html
http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/MUBA.html
http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/MUGT.html

Sur would be helpful to see current conditions down there.


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NONAME
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Re: What the H@#% [Re: Beach]
      #48690 - Tue Aug 23 2005 10:08 AM

What time is Recon spose to be in TD10 to see if it has devloped and which do you think any mod/met will form first 10 or 97.

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Beach
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Circulation [Re: NONAME]
      #48691 - Tue Aug 23 2005 10:22 AM

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/watl-wv-loop.html

Question:
Is this a LLC forming between Baracoa, Oriente, Cuba and Great Inagua?
And a UL forming just NE of San Salvador?


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Frank P
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Re: Circulation [Re: Beach]
      #48692 - Tue Aug 23 2005 10:29 AM

I detected what might appear to be a LLC or some kind of vortex around 22.8 and 74.9 on the GOES vis sat loop

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goeseastconus.html


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Re: Circulation [Re: Beach]
      #48693 - Tue Aug 23 2005 10:29 AM

Water Temperature Map Link
Right now xtd10 is about to cross over into 90 degree water temps.This could develope it rather quickly,as long as it does not move faster than expected.I just don't want to be caught off quard.Things are really picking up!

Modified image to link (See rules about Inline Images) - Mike C.

Edited by MikeC (Tue Aug 23 2005 10:36 AM)


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NewWatcher
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Re: What the H@#% [Re: NONAME]
      #48694 - Tue Aug 23 2005 10:30 AM

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/MIAREPRPD.shtml?
Noname,
most all of the answers to your questions can be found on the websites linked
from this site. You can find the recon info to the left and also other info
under storm links. Once you have these pages, save them to your favorites, this
way you can get to them quickly next time.

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Frank P
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Re: Circulation [Re: ftlaudbob]
      #48695 - Tue Aug 23 2005 10:34 AM

another good sat loop link that hints of the LLC developing and moving off to the wnw...

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/SATATL_FLOAT2/anim8vis.html


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Jamiewx
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99L [Re: Frank P]
      #48696 - Tue Aug 23 2005 10:49 AM

What we were calling Ex-TD 10 has been designated 99L Invest as per NRL.

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NewWatcher
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Re: Circulation [Re: Frank P]
      #48697 - Tue Aug 23 2005 10:50 AM

Navy calling XTD10 99L
25 knot winds at 22.1 74.7

http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tc-bin/tc_hom...es&DISPLAY=

beat to the punch again lol

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Edited by NewWatcher (Tue Aug 23 2005 10:51 AM)


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