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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: MikeC]
      #50291 - Fri Aug 26 2005 07:07 PM

Is there a chance this hurricane could still make a right turn and make land fall in the tampa area. What about it slow speed if it continues to move slow may be the trough could have time to pick this up and send it back to the right real fast

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90L now an invest [Re: Random Chaos]
      #50292 - Fri Aug 26 2005 07:09 PM

We have a new invest out in the atlantic. It's the wave following 97L and has been named 90L.

http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tc-bin/tc_hom...es&DISPLAY=


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AL MS LA [Re: Frank P]
      #50293 - Fri Aug 26 2005 07:12 PM

I'm not sure about Phil being clairvoyant. Clairol, maybe.
The 29/18z position of 30.0N/ 88.5W is just south of Petit Bois Island and just west of the MS/AL line in the GOM.
That would be close to Frederick '79's track. Based on the 5 PM EDT Advisory.

State of LA has gone to emergency already!!

http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/WWL082605blanco.b15272b7.html

Edited by danielw (Fri Aug 26 2005 07:19 PM)


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MrSpock
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Re: AL MS LA [Re: danielw]
      #50295 - Fri Aug 26 2005 07:16 PM

I know that is rated as one of the hardest places to evacuate, but doesn't it seem at least a little premature?

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NO [Re: MrSpock]
      #50297 - Fri Aug 26 2005 07:18 PM

not a nice girl if she comes into New Orleans...

won't be a pretty site....New Orleans is UNDER sea level...and the levees cannot withstand anything more than a cat 2...

cat 3 or better...City is UNDER 10 or more of water...period.

fact

watching this is almost surreal. what other natural disaster can you sit and watch.....watch it coming to you?

maybe hear a volcano rumble....but ....these things are fascinating...


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Re: AL MS LA [Re: danielw]
      #50298 - Fri Aug 26 2005 07:18 PM

Quote:

State of LA has gone to emergency already??




Remember Dennis? They had NO evac into MS, several days ahead, for goodness sake. Big headache for MS folks, who have very few evac routes, and whose roadways were also hit by AL evac traffic.

Because of the large population and limited roadway throughput, I believe the plan is for NO to evac 72hrs out; way before they know if they are going to take a direct hit.

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Re: AL MS LA [Re: Margie]
      #50299 - Fri Aug 26 2005 07:22 PM

The declaration of emergency also stops some price gouging, but of course not all of it.

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Re: AL MS LA [Re: Margie]
      #50300 - Fri Aug 26 2005 07:23 PM

just looked @ the long range loop out of the keys and it seems to be wobbling to the nw ... hope its not a trend ... for the panhandles sake =\ http://radar.weather.gov/radar/loop/DS.p20-r/si.kbyx.shtml

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Re: AL MS LA [Re: GuppieGrouper]
      #50301 - Fri Aug 26 2005 07:24 PM

can someone please show me where this ridge is and how big it is.

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Re: AL MS LA [Re: D3m3NT3DVoRT3X]
      #50302 - Fri Aug 26 2005 07:26 PM

Blanco declares state of emergency
05:49 PM CDT on Friday, August 26, 2005
Associated Press

Louisiana kept a close watch on the Gulf of Mexico on Friday, Gov. Kathleen Blanco declared a state of emergency, and a strengthening Hurricane Katrina moved further to the west. Blanco ordered the state's disaster preparedness offices to start taking precautions, saying Katrina posed an "imminent threat." Meanwhile, emergency preparedness officers in southern Louisiana were mobilizing on their own.

http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/WWL082605blanco.b15272b7.html
http://www.wwltv.com/


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Re: AL MS LA [Re: D3m3NT3DVoRT3X]
      #50303 - Fri Aug 26 2005 07:26 PM

Quote:

just looked @ the long range loop out of the keys and it seems to be wobbling to the nw ... hope its not a trend ... for the panhandles sake =\ http://radar.weather.gov/radar/loop/DS.p20-r/si.kbyx.shtml




Egads! Looks a little more NNW. Hope its just a wobble, although at this point, some unfortunate souls are going to get it anyway.

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Re: AL MS LA [Re: StormHound]
      #50304 - Fri Aug 26 2005 07:30 PM

Loop the radar... http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/byx_N0R_lp.shtml

It's barely moving, but it's direction is not NNW, it is almost exactly west with maybe the smallest possible northern component... but, really, it's not doing much...

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Re: AL MS LA [Re: StormHound]
      #50305 - Fri Aug 26 2005 07:31 PM

Looks like due west to me from the Key West radar. Earlier (4:30pm CT) I thought it has turned due north or maybe NNW but in the last hour it looks like due west.

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Re: AL MS LA [Re: StormHound]
      #50306 - Fri Aug 26 2005 07:31 PM

anyone heard any info out of the keys? .. they must have got @ least a foot of rain or more by now

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Re: AL MS LA [Re: nl]
      #50307 - Fri Aug 26 2005 07:32 PM

Quote:

can someone please show me where this ridge is and how big it is.




This morning's maps. They will update soon. This is the 850mb-around 10,000 feet.
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/tafb_latest/QUNA00latest.gif

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/tafb_latest/QHQA17latest.gif
200mb map-roughly 40950 feet.

Edited by danielw (Fri Aug 26 2005 07:49 PM)


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Re: AL MS LA [Re: D3m3NT3DVoRT3X]
      #50308 - Fri Aug 26 2005 07:33 PM

Quote:

anyone heard any info out of the keys? .. they must have got @ least a foot of rain or more by now




Here's the doppler rain total: http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/byx.shtml

Not as good as a location report, but useful for seeing trends.


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Weakness in the ridge around the SC GA border? [Re: D3m3NT3DVoRT3X]
      #50309 - Fri Aug 26 2005 07:33 PM

Looking at the imagry am I seeing some sort of weakness developing there in response to the approaching front?

and then, if it is there, would it be enough to pull the storm north and north east?

EDIT:
specificly I'm wondering if the ridge is splitting and pushing south into the western GOM and would block Katrina from heading west? I am probably reading things wrong, but I keep thinking that's what I"m starting to see.... any thoughts?

-Mark

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Edited by Bloodstar (Fri Aug 26 2005 07:37 PM)


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Re: AL MS LA [Re: D3m3NT3DVoRT3X]
      #50310 - Fri Aug 26 2005 07:35 PM

Quote:

anyone heard any info out of the keys? .. they must have got @ least a foot of rain or more by now




TWC said 9 inches in Key West.... 4th highest rainfall total.

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Re: Weakness in the ridge around the SC GA border? [Re: Bloodstar]
      #50311 - Fri Aug 26 2005 07:36 PM

Mark,

I don't see any weakness on the loop i'm viewing now (the WV one). So no, the non-existent weakness isn't enough to move it north and east.

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Re: Weakness in the ridge around the SC GA border? [Re: Hugh]
      #50312 - Fri Aug 26 2005 07:41 PM

Actually, looks to me like Katrina took a dive to the SW. Maybe she will meander there a bit. If she stays there long enuf, things may change regarding her future path.

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