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emackl
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Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity [Re: Ron Basso]
      #57614 - Mon Oct 03 2005 09:47 AM

Thank You Ron!

My hard drive crashed and I lost all my links. Could someone post the link to the page that has the computer models? I have the globals but I want the one, (can't remember the site) that links you to the globals. It says something like Show me the Global models please...LOL! It has the drop down menu that you pick the invest number. Does anyone have any clue as to what I'm talking about...rofl!

Thank You,
Jackie


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twizted sizter
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Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity [Re: Storm Hunter]
      #57615 - Mon Oct 03 2005 09:50 AM

Nogaps is showing a trip around the Gulf with the Bahamas system as well.

Modeling has been fairly consistent with activity for Fl for 2-3 days now...whether it's rainmakers or more remains to be seen but a Bear Watch is order for both coasts at the least this week.

Look at the GFS...a chorus line of storms crossing the W coast of Fl...as well as a rather strong one at 114 hrs.

Nothing will surprise me after this season...heck after last season.

Any mets have a take?


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Susan in Jupiter, FL
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Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity [Re: emackl]
      #57616 - Mon Oct 03 2005 09:51 AM

Don't know if this is the exact one you are looking for........
http://weather.net-waves.com/modelplot.htm

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Margie
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Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity [Re: Ron Basso]
      #57617 - Mon Oct 03 2005 09:55 AM

Ever since yesterday morning I've beem having trouble trying to get NRL web site loaded. Any alternate URLs? PM me if you like.

I thought I did notice there was some rotation late yesterday evening, in that long line of convection, east of the Bahamas, but wasn't sure. Was going to post here, but this site wasn't coming up either.

Looks like Stan came through with all that LLC intact, and convection started blooming just as soon as the center exited the coast into that coastal area with the deep warm water (until about 94W?).

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Happy Birthday NewWatcher
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Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity [Re: Margie]
      #57618 - Mon Oct 03 2005 09:57 AM

http://tcweb.fnmoc.navy.mil/tc-bin/tc_home.cgi

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Pam in Volusia County

According to Colleen A ... "I AM A HURRICANE FREAK"
2007 Predictions 16/9/6


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emackl
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Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity [Re: Susan in Jupiter, FL]
      #57619 - Mon Oct 03 2005 10:00 AM

Exactly what I was looking for. Thank You!

Here's what I found on HPC disco:

"TPC/NHC TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK INDICATES POTENTIAL FOR SOME
DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE TROPICAL WAVE CURRENTLY EAST OF THE
BAHAMAS. GUIDANCE AGREES WITH THIS IDEA... BRINGING A WELL DEFINED SYSTEM INTO THE GULF OF MEXICO. TRACK OF THIS FEATURE BY
THE SECOND HALF OF THE PERIOD WILL DEPEND SOMEWHAT ON THE EVENTUAL
AMPLITUDE OF THE ERN CONUS TROF. THE ECMWF IS NOT USUALLY THE
BEST MODEL FOR TROPICAL SYSTEMS... BUT THERE IS REASONABLE
CONSENSUS THAT THE ERN TROF WILL EXERT LESS INFLUENCE THAN FCST BY
GFS RUNS... KEEPING THE TROPICAL FEATURE FARTHER SWWD. THEREFORE
THE 00Z ECMWF/06Z GFS COMPROMISE LEANS MORE IN THE ECMWF
DIRECTION."

That's just great. I'm sick of the storms. When they say a Well defined system, do they mean well defined as it goes to GOM or well defined after it gets there? That makes a big difference for FL.

Thanks!


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Happy Birthday NewWatcher
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Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity [Re: emackl]
      #57620 - Mon Oct 03 2005 10:04 AM

im not sure it matters since the models seem to think it is gonna turn around and head right back to us, so we either get it coming or going or both

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sara33
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Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity [Re: NewWatcher]
      #57622 - Mon Oct 03 2005 10:26 AM

Which system are you all talking about? I am on the West coast of Fl..St. Petersburg. Also, could you post the link to the models you are looking at?
Thanks everyone.


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Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity [Re: sara33]
      #57623 - Mon Oct 03 2005 10:30 AM

this system is still days out and things could change, but here is the link
one of them anyway
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/tcgengifs/

most models and other info can be found on this site on the fron page at the bottom

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sara33
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Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity [Re: NewWatcher]
      #57624 - Mon Oct 03 2005 10:37 AM

Thanks Pam

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Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity [Re: sara33]
      #57625 - Mon Oct 03 2005 10:49 AM

2. SUSPECT AREA (BAHAMAS)
FLIGHT ONE FLIGHT TWO
A. 04/1500Z A. 05/0600,1200Z
B. NOAA2 01IIA INVEST B. AFXXX 02IIA CYCLONE
C. 04/1330Z C. 05/0230Z
D. 24.0N 78.0W D. 24.0N 81.0W
E. 04/1430Z TO 04/2000Z E. 05/0500Z TO 05/1230Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

new recon set to go tomorrow

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Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity [Re: NewWatcher]
      #57626 - Mon Oct 03 2005 10:54 AM Attachment (209 downloads)

radar out of Cancun, MX (attached)
It is from yesterday evening, but the idea is to show how much better organized Stan is now compared to when it made landfall yesterday morning.


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Wingman51
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Bahama Baby [Re: Rabbit]
      #57627 - Mon Oct 03 2005 11:16 AM

From NWS discussion at 10 am for Eact Central Fl

WE ARE MUCH MORE
INTERESTED IN AN UPPER LOW AND TROPICAL WAVE EAST OF THE
BAHAMAS...MOVING WEST. A CIRCULATION CAN EASILY BE DISCERNED IN THE
INFRARED SAT IMAGERY BUT THIS IS IN THE UPPER LEVELS...AT 250 MB.
THERE IS NO CLOSED SFC CIRCULATION AT THIS TIME...ONLY AN INVERTED
TROUGH. NONETHELESS...THIS TROPICAL WAVE WILL TIGHTEN THE PRESSURE
GRADIENT TUE INCREASING WINDS AND SEAS...CAUSING MINOR BEACH EROSION
AROUND THE TIMES OF HIGH TIDE. SO WILL ISSUE HIGH SURF ADVISORY THIS
AFTN TO TAKE EFFECT TONIGHT AND CONTINUE FOR AT LEAST A FEW HIGH
TIDE CYCLES. NEXT HIGH TIDE IS BETWEEN 8 AND 9 PM.


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Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity [Re: Rabbit]
      #57628 - Mon Oct 03 2005 11:25 AM

There is some very intense convection being generated by Stan at the moment. The center is somewhere underneath the CDO, but I don't know exactly where. It is in an environment where rapid intensification is possible. It'll be interesting to see what the next recon plane shows.

The disturbed weather east of the Bahamas still doesn't look very tropical at the moment. Whether or not the upper-level winds become more favorable or not as it gets closer to the coast depends partially on what happens with Stan. If Stan becomes stronger than anticipated and/or moves slower than anticipated, both of which are possible, then the outflow from Stan could cause a greater amount of shear to the east.

The system classified as 91L looks like a nice, compact system right now, but the latest SHIPS output predicts doom for it rather quickly, so it may never amount to anything.


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emackl
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Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity [Re: NewWatcher]
      #57629 - Mon Oct 03 2005 11:27 AM

2. SUSPECT AREA (BAHAMAS)
FLIGHT ONE FLIGHT TWO
A. 04/1500Z A. 05/0600,1200Z
B. NOAA2 01IIA INVEST B. AFXXX 02IIA CYCLONE
C. 04/1330Z C. 05/0230Z
D. 24.0N 78.0W D. 24.0N 81.0W
E. 04/1430Z TO 04/2000Z E. 05/0500Z TO 05/1230Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

Could someone explain line D. to me. Isn't the second part almost on the coast. Seems like they could just look up..LOL! I would think that crossing Fl would change everything anyway. Why not wait till it's in the GOM. Am I reading it incorrectly?

Thanks.


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Rabbit
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Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity [Re: emackl]
      #57630 - Mon Oct 03 2005 11:47 AM

the second part is SE of the Keys

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emackl
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Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity [Re: Rabbit]
      #57631 - Mon Oct 03 2005 11:51 AM

Duhh. Sorry about that. Poor Keys. I hope they don't get hit again. Not only that but things have gone down hill everytime they got hit this year.

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Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity [Re: Ed Dunham]
      #57632 - Mon Oct 03 2005 11:53 AM

The navy web site is putting 92L a tropical deppression with 30 knots.

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MapMaster
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Re: 92L a TD? [Re: hurricane expert]
      #57633 - Mon Oct 03 2005 12:03 PM

Where do you see that?....I just looked, it is still 92L, if it were a TD they would list it as 'noname'....

MM


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Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity [Re: emackl]
      #57634 - Mon Oct 03 2005 12:05 PM

Both are in the Atlantic before crossing into the GOM...

Not sure what you mean about waiting???

MM


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