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Kruz
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Re: Gas Rationing...FALSE. [Re: Unregistered User]
      #24910 - Fri Sep 10 2004 03:58 PM

I , too am trying to decide. I really didn't care for Frances and this guy will be worse..way worse.

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c ray
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Re: Rumors and the danger [Re: Rasvar]
      #24911 - Fri Sep 10 2004 03:59 PM

wftv.com (ABC affiliate in Orlando) posted an AP article about some guy who is trying to do a Dyna Gel drop on Ivan.

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lilyv
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Re: Gas Rationing...FALSE. [Re: wxman007]
      #24912 - Fri Sep 10 2004 03:59 PM

http://www.myflorida.com/
Lots of hurricane related information here, and and not a word about rationing. They also post the daily emergency response briefings here.


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MIAMIFL
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Re: Gas Rationing [Re: Unregistered User]
      #24913 - Fri Sep 10 2004 04:00 PM

I DID NOT POST INFORMATION THAT WAS UNTRUE OR UNVERIFIED, THIS INFORMATION THAT I POSTED EARLIER CAME FROM THE CHIEF JUSTICE MIAMI-DADE COUNTY -- I TRUST HE WOULD BE A RELIABLE SOURCE, I HOPE TO ASSIT THOSE THAT MAY NEED FUEL, AND PROVIDE OTHER WEBSITE USERS A JUMPSTART OVER THE PUBLIC AT LARGE. I UNDERSTAND THE FEAR OF PANIC, BUT WE MUST FACE THE TRUTH HEAD ON

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Rasvar
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Re: Rumors and the danger [Re: trinibaje]
      #24914 - Fri Sep 10 2004 04:00 PM

There is a major difference between speculating on where a hurricane is going and saying:

"The storm is heading to Tampa!!!! Get out now!!!!"


That is what these rumors are the equivilent of. Everyone knows that what ever we say here is not offical and all official words on evacuations and such should supercede anything that is stated here. If they don't, they they need to learn that.


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andy1tom
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Re: Rumors and the danger [Re: Rasvar]
      #24915 - Fri Sep 10 2004 04:01 PM

one of the things you are suppose to do is fill-up. but think about it if everyone fills up demand is more than supply. and demand = price. thats why "crooks" are able to price gouge. gas, roofs, its all the same. i think the other 2 have everyone gun shy and people are doing things well in advance which is good. nobody will fuss at the NHC if they miss the track and it goes somewhere else this time. also i still don't see the northern turn yet.

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LI Phil
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c-ray is RIGHT [Re: c ray]
      #24916 - Fri Sep 10 2004 04:02 PM

I thought for sure c-ray was having a go, but sure enough, here's the story.

Ivan is truly making everyone nuts.

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Terra
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Overall Water Vapor [Re: Unregistered User]
      #24917 - Fri Sep 10 2004 04:03 PM

I am trying to understand the possible steering of the ridge in the Atlantic. Looking at the western Atlantic WV loop:
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/watl-wv-loop.html

it seems to my untrained eye, that as it pushes in, it will discourage the northern turn of Ivan. If I look at the GOM loop:
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/gmex-wv-loop.html

it seems as the western ridge is larger and more powerful.

But, the northwest Atlantic loop is the easiest to visualize (since it shows both high pressure systems), but still isn't great as Ivan isnt showing up yet:
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/nwatl-wv-loop.html

What I see every time I look at these is the two ridges converging and narrowing the trough. But, it looks like the trough is being pushed more from the Atlantic ridge than it is being affected by the western ridge (watch the southern tip of Florida as the loop progresses). Am I seeing things, or doesn't it look like the trough will be further west than expected?

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Kal
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Re: Gas Rationing...FALSE. [Re: wxman007]
      #24918 - Fri Sep 10 2004 04:04 PM

Jason - Thanks for clarifying that the gas rumor is false. And now that you've checked in, what are your thoughts on Ivan's track today? Yesterday you expressed some growing concerns about your neck of the woods. Are you breathing even just a little easier seeing today's forecast models?

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Jamiewx
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Rumor? [Re: Terra]
      #24919 - Fri Sep 10 2004 04:06 PM

The closest thing i can find on rationing is found here http://www.sptimes.com/2004/09/06/State/Gov_Bush_takes_step_t.shtml

But it doesn't really apply because it says state does not plan to do that.


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wxman007
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Re: Gas Rationing [Re: MIAMIFL]
      #24920 - Fri Sep 10 2004 04:06 PM

I understand, but please hear me on this one. I was in the conference call directly, and I heard Gov Bush, with MY ears, say that gasoline rationing was not going to b enacted today, nor is it planned for the future. If he DOES implement it, then it is political suicide to directly lie to a media outlet.

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lilyv
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Re: Rumors and the danger [Re: andy1tom]
      #24921 - Fri Sep 10 2004 04:07 PM

About price gouging-States take this seriously. Florida currently has this#:
Attorney General's Price Gouging Hotline: (1-800-646-0444)
Folks that have been through a hurricane don't deserve to be cheated out of their money.


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trinibaje
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I just think [Re: LI Phil]
      #24922 - Fri Sep 10 2004 04:07 PM

before you accusing someone of intentionally spreading false rumors..ask them where they got the info from .... jeeze....

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Colleen A.
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Let's Put The Gas Rationing Rumor to Bed & Other Info [Re: Rasvar]
      #24923 - Fri Sep 10 2004 04:08 PM

1) The gas-rationing is only a rumor. BayNews9 is scrolling on the bottom of their screen that THERE IS NO GAS RATIONING. I heard Jeb Bush say it himself on the radio an hour ago.

2) School closings in the Tampa Bay Area on Monday include the following counties: Hernando, Polk and Hillsborough.

3) If you live in Florida and have relatives who are watching MSNBC, you might be getting some calls. Why? Because the last time they talked about Ivan, they put on the screen the following message:

"TROPICAL STORM WINDS UP TO 275MPH"

I triple checked that before I called them to tell them that they were more than likely scaring the unnecesary C**P out of people.

And they want us to believe that they "report" the news with the facts??? ROFLMAO.........

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MrSpock
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Re: Rumors and the danger [Re: andy1tom]
      #24924 - Fri Sep 10 2004 04:08 PM

Jeb is on tv saying it is not true.

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ShaggyDude
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Re: Gas Rationing [Re: wxman007]
      #24925 - Fri Sep 10 2004 04:08 PM

The governor is on a live conference right now on national T.V. and is putting down the gas rumor.

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wxman007
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Ivan thoughts.... [Re: Kal]
      #24926 - Fri Sep 10 2004 04:09 PM

Still gathering my thoughts at this point and working on my forecast..more later when I get a little more time....

To answer your question briefly, I am only marginally less concerned about a Panhandle strike.

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trinibaje
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there will be no need to ration [Re: ShaggyDude]
      #24927 - Fri Sep 10 2004 04:10 PM

if there is none to ration....

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MIAMIFL
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FALSE [Re: wxman007]
      #24928 - Fri Sep 10 2004 04:11 PM

LOOKS LIKE EVEN THOSE WITHIN THE GOVERNMENT WERE DUPED -- BUT BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY?

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WXMAN RICHIE
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Re: Gas Rationing [Re: ShaggyDude]
      #24929 - Fri Sep 10 2004 04:11 PM

Jeb said the rumor started in the Tampa area earlier today.

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