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Rasvar
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Re: CFHC Family...who's unaccounted for? [Re: SC Bill]
      #29100 - Sat Sep 18 2004 05:36 PM

That radar is in what is called "Clear Air Mode." Layman terms, it is a more sensative setting then the standard precipitation mode and display echos that would not normally show up; but there is not precepitiation.

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Rasvar
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Re: Back After A DEEP and NEEDED Sleep [Re: poetdi]
      #29101 - Sat Sep 18 2004 05:44 PM

I have freinds in Kissimmee. KUA was unprepared and caught off guard. They were not expecting cat 3 conditions and did not have enough out of state crews on call. It was an operational error that I am sure they will not make again. Most of the people I knew in Kissimme had power before I did in Poinciana with Progress Energy.

One more caveat. I have been involved in recovery efforts in six major hurricanes over the last decade. The recovery from Charley was one of the fastest I have ever seen. Kissimmee suffered a total loss. Five years ago, that would have been a two month restoration. No matter how it looks, there are always problems with power restoration after a storm. you are going to hear horror stories after Ivan. I have yet to see a major delineation between private and municipal recoveries. Most of the differences have had to do with the level of restoration required. As was the case in Kissimmee in my opinion.

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Re: CFHC Family...who's unaccounted for? [Re: 52255225]
      #29102 - Sat Sep 18 2004 05:52 PM

Yes, that is Jason's voice. Someone on the board here (can't remember who it was) actually saw that live.

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Re: CFHC Family...who's unaccounted for? [Re: BillD]
      #29103 - Sat Sep 18 2004 05:54 PM

Bill, I was just about to post that. It was Coop who saw it live...we've been PMing about it...That's some SCARY stuff...surprise both aren't in therapy right now.

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Re: CFHC Family...who's unaccounted for? [Re: BillD]
      #29104 - Sat Sep 18 2004 05:55 PM

I can tell you for sure I was one.

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Steve, [Re: Rasvar]
      #29105 - Sat Sep 18 2004 06:02 PM

I figured I was part of your post to Richie, since my name was in there. That's what bothered me. The problem with doing this message board stuff is it is very easy to misconstrue something-whether it's remembering who said what, or who MEANT what, etc.
I have written many emails that sounded the way i wanted them to when I wrote them, but when I re-read at another time, it seemed like I am saying something else. That's a big hazzard of communicating without voice inflections, and a back-and-forth type of thing.

As far as JB, I did blame him when it was in reality, it was a "member of the team" that night. I also called out a local tv weatherman for doing the same thing in reverse, and he is eating some big dishes of crow today.
I don't read his stuff, I used to subscribe to them probably 15 years ago, long before all of this stuff was found on the internet. Having the amateur experience that I do, I see things from a different perspective. I took heat in school for wrong forecasts that agreed with everyone else-it happens. I used to be a bolder forecaster, but later on, I realized the power of those words.
I have no problems when people disagree....that often leads to excellent discussion, and you can really learn from that. But, I also won't get on anyone for it either though, because someday, the situation will be reversed.


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Re: CFHC Family...who's unaccounted for? [Re: Storm Cooper]
      #29106 - Sat Sep 18 2004 06:03 PM

I have seen the new model runs and they have the storm becoming stationary and then moving westward into Florida as the ridge builds overtop of the storm. Betsy was a simliar storm to this, blocking ridge and then all of a suddent the a weakness occured and the storm went right into Florida.

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Re: CFHC Family...who's unaccounted for? [Re: Keith234]
      #29107 - Sat Sep 18 2004 06:04 PM

Can you post a link to those new runs?

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Is JB on TV tonight? [Re: MrSpock]
      #29108 - Sat Sep 18 2004 06:05 PM

I think I heard somewhere that JB was going to be on TV, does anyone know when?

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Re: CFHC Family...who's unaccounted for? [Re: LI Phil]
      #29109 - Sat Sep 18 2004 06:06 PM

Surely
http://met.psu.edu/tropical/tcgengifs/

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Re: CFHC Family...who's unaccounted for? [Re: Keith234]
      #29110 - Sat Sep 18 2004 06:09 PM

Thanks for the link...I might be wrong, and someone who knows please correct me if I am, but those are all 12Z runs or older...I didn't think the 18Z runs were in yet.

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Re: Back After A DEEP and NEEDED Sleep [Re: poetdi]
      #29111 - Sat Sep 18 2004 06:10 PM

I have OUC here in St Cloud, Florida. during Chraley we lost power for 3 days and for Francis were lost power for a whole 10 hrs, I am grateful we didnt go longer and feel for the people that went weeks without power.

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Re: CFHC Family...who's unaccounted for? [Re: LI Phil]
      #29112 - Sat Sep 18 2004 06:10 PM

Well they're new for me, I haven't been home all day. Watched my homecoming game, and it rained.

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Re: Is JB on TV tonight? [Re: Keith234]
      #29113 - Sat Sep 18 2004 06:12 PM

From his site..."I will be on Fox tonight between 8 and 10 pm ( I think 8:30)."

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Re: Is JB on TV tonight? [Re: mojorox]
      #29115 - Sat Sep 18 2004 06:14 PM

Yeah, I read that too, he said "8:30, I think". Does anyone know if this is the local fox station or the fair and balanced channel?

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Re: CFHC Family...who's unaccounted for? [Re: LI Phil]
      #29116 - Sat Sep 18 2004 06:16 PM

I just looked for the 18Z GFS, and it is only out to 84 hours. Here is a good link to some of the models:
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/

They also loop them, which is nice, but take a little while to load sometimes.


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Re: Is JB on TV tonight? *DELETED* [Re: LI Phil]
      #29117 - Sat Sep 18 2004 06:18 PM

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Ivan bloody Ivan [Re: Liz L.]
      #29118 - Sat Sep 18 2004 06:18 PM

I should probably wait till tomorrow for the subject to become a little more apropo, but for a piece of a remanant, that sucker sure looks in better shape than it should be. It's moving over nice warmish water. but what other factors would create a regeneration scenario. (And don't include anything about the T-Virus helping this sucker out

are we about to see a 'Fujwara effect' with two (hopefully weak) systems?

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Re: Ivan bloody Ivan [Re: Bloodstar]
      #29119 - Sat Sep 18 2004 06:21 PM

Bloodstar,

When you have a Fujiwhara affect you usually have one very strong storm and one weak storm and the later one controlling it. So we'll have to see.

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Re: Is JB on TV tonight? [Re: Keith234]
      #29120 - Sat Sep 18 2004 06:21 PM

>>> Shoot I just lost the Yankee game, what channel is it on?

Um, Keith...the yankees played on our Fox 5 here this afternoon...the game ended hours ago. I turned it off when we were winning 13-1 in the 8th...Leiber carried a no hitter into the seventh inning, when Richiewx told me it was on...so I missed most of it myself.

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