Big Red Machine
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As the point I was trying to make on my previous posts. Still, have not heard or seen any reports coming in from around the world for assistance. This will go down history as perhaps the worst disaster for the U.S. barring any futrue storms.
Sadly I'm not suprised. Perhaps when people see the effect that this storm will have on the national economy they will truly realize what a devastating storm this was. I think the Feds have a good idea on the extent of the storm damage, but for some reason the national television stations are not reporting. I know I sound like a broken record, but the national stations still seem to be oblivious or unwilling to publicize the catastrophic nature of the storm. This is one case where I am very thankful for the internet.I have turned to the local television stations. They said that the city is flooded with feet of water over almost the entire city and unfortunately fires are raging across areas of the city as firefighters either cannot reach them or are not able to put them out as they are too busy in other areas. Highway 90 from MS is completely and utterly destroyed. Medical care in the city is pretty much unavailable. Also there is apparently 3 feet of water in the Superdome. According to the local tv: the lake continues to flow into the city through the two breaches and water will consider to spread across the city, literally filling bowl as the water is going to spread out across the city until the areas have more uniform flooding. They also say that due to the tremendous stress on the levees, further levee breaks are possible. Officials are urging those still in New Orleans to leave. The only way out is through the "Crescent City Connection." (There is no way into the city). There is also concern (eventually) about some limited flooding from the Mississippi as it rises from rainwater to the north. Those in the Superdome will be there for "a long time." They hope that the refugees in the Superdome will remain calm (Again, this is not according to me, this is according to the local news). At least two people inside the Superdome have died. "This is bad as it gets people."
Crews are hoping to plug the levees by dropping 3000lb sandbags from helicopters.
Edited by Big Red Machine (Tue Aug 30 2005 12:27 PM)
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SkeetoBite
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Folks, these are difficult times. Lets remain polite and calm and not supress opinions.
A great many people are hurting right now and open discussion about the aftermath of tropical weather is ok given the extreme circumstances.
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The Force 2005
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Well, I certainly would agree with that, but this possible fish spinner with a no-name as well, is probally a week to ten days away if that, there is no discussion at this point to get everyone in a frenzy of another potential storm that does not exsist at the moment.
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rhendryx
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I am not going to try to do the job of the mods, but the title of the current thread is "Katrina Aftermath". I think there are many people on this thread who want to keep the primary focus on the aftermath. I am sure the administrators will start a new thread for new Atlantic activity at some point. I am sure no poster meant offense to anyone else and neither do i.
Just heard an interview on TV of the person in charge of the Salvation Army relief efforts. Mobile kitchens from the Salvation Army are in Alabama and will soon be assisting with meals.
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Terra
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New Orleans is under marshall law, and it seems they are trying to get everyone out (and of course, not let anyone back in). I don't understand how this is logistically possible, since it was not possible to evacuate everyone before the storm when transportation was possible.
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ralphfl
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Well i ask you this question.The Oil prices are supose to go up over 3$ here in Florida soon because of this storm.....NOW what i ask you is this.Yes there is gonna be a time like last year to get the rigs going again BUT tell me this.How many Cars? How many Trucks? how many Suv's? how many things that use gas in these states.....LA.........MS...........ALA.......And any other state this cane hit are not able to move? 200,000? more less? then times that by how many gallons on Gas they use a day and are we not saving that? you got to think those 3 states are using a million less gallons of gas each day since the storm hit NO? am i way off or what?
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NewWatcher
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Unless they have a boat or a helicopter, I am thinking they cant get
back in anyway.... maybe I am wrong. It is terrible, If it were me I would want to see my house, even if it was under water. Hard to stay away I would expect.
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Big Red Machine
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Well i ask you this question.The Oil prices are supose to go up over 3$ here in Florida soon because of this storm.....NOW what i ask you is this.Yes there is gonna be a time like last year to get the rigs going again BUT tell me this.How many Cars? How many Trucks? how many Suv's? how many things that use gas in these states.....LA.........MS...........ALA.......And any other state this cane hit are not able to move? 200,000? more less? then times that by how many gallons on Gas they use a day and are we not saving that? you got to think those 3 states are using a million less gallons of gas each day since the storm hit NO? am i way off or what?
You are way off Ralph. A lot of gas and oil will be used to aid in the recovery efforts. The evacuees still have to drive BACK also.
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HurricaneSteph
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The Red Cross, FEMA and various other organizations will be doing their parts to help the victims of this storm. However, please don't forget there are thousands of animals too that are now homeless. Your local SPCA/Humane Society can tell you what is best to donate, i.e. dog and cat food, etc. Not sure if someone has already mentioned giving any kind of aid to our animal friends in this thread, it's grown too large for me to read each previous post!
Stay safe, folks...as always!
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Margie
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CNN has listed ways in which individuals can help:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/30/help.agencies/index.html
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The Force 2005
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I don't believe that gas prices will sky rocket cause I do believe that the Pres will allow reserves to be tapped into. you also can tell by the price of oil that is maintaining it's price almost from a week ago. Now I do believe that there could be a case to say that this has the potential for price gouging the residents to get gas for their cars. I think that th eFEDS should keep a watchful eye over how the prices are going up.
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The Force 2005
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Margie,
Any word from your brother yet. May god be with you and him.
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Margie
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No word.
BobVee thanks for your PM. You need to change your settings if you want to receive PMs from other users.
Those D'Iberville deputies that were rescued were in Harrison County, not Jackson County, but thanks for that info.
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The Force 2005
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Margie,
What does your line mean?
The first thing I learned from looking at satellite loops was that the air was dancing.
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bobbutts
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Basically agree with Big Red as far as the seriousness of the damage is.. I hope I didn't offend anyone with my earlier post saying this isn't "The Big One". The only "good" news is that it appears that there won't be an unimaginable death toll and to a lesser extent complete destruction of NO we had been fearing. Compared to history this seems to be shaping up to be the biggest one so far and that's certainly bad enough no matter what you label it.
That said the questions now.. removing the dead, finding a place to live for the newly homeless, trying to keep people healthy in cleanup and refugee area.. these are beyond anything we've dealt with before.
Really good point re: the temp housing
no idea what the answer is.
Having lived through and seeing the massive relief effort here it's just hard to fathom the effort that will need to take place in such a larger (very rough guess of serious damage in 20x as large area) and more heavily populated area. Don't know what the logistics are for cleaning up flooding vs. wind damage, but I'd have to assume flooding is hell to clean.
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The Force 2005
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This is why the Red Cross has mobilized over 200,000 volunteers to the affected areas. The most in the history of the U.S. If that says anything of the enormity, nothing does.
Edited by The Force 2005 (Tue Aug 30 2005 01:00 PM)
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The Force 2005
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I know no one has posted this, so I will comment on this.
The crew of the Hurricane Hunters:
They deserve an extrodinarily amount of credit for their job while under immense pressure, cause you have to remind yourselfs, that they had familys in Biloxi, Gulfport, and the Gulf Coast. Try imagine flying into , knowing your family was below, an awful task even to think about.
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OcalaKT
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I think we have seen devastation like this with the tsunami. Perhaps not in death toll, but in the sense that complete communities and infrastructure have been closed to wiped out. Countless homeless people, who need to be feed, housed. How long will it take not only to rebuild, but to get the economy and workplaces up and running again. I can't imagine the undertaking that is going to be involed in rebuilding these areas. And while this may be controversial, should so much be rebuilt in a place that is cearly so vulnerable to this kind of destruction?
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The Force 2005
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Well, along those same lines, why do people re-build their homes right on the beach/coast again, after a hurricane/storm just wiped it clean.
Go figure!!
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Hootowl
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Margie,
They have town by town info. I am sure they will also have survivor info. You might want to save this link.
http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/news/special_packages/hurricane_katrina/12513444.htm
You and your family are still in my prayers.
Dotty
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