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Lee-Delray
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Re: Wilma Approaching the Yucatan Peninsula [Re: engicedave]
      #60708 - Fri Oct 21 2005 12:20 PM

I'm not sure to my untrained eye it look like a west of north west turn.

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Geoff
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Re: Wilma Approaching the Yucatan Peninsula [Re: Mayor of Moronia]
      #60709 - Fri Oct 21 2005 12:21 PM

There was a comment earlier about "laymen being able to get as close as the 'professionals' with no more information than knowledge of where these storms usually go. " Although I personally wouln't go quite that far, there is some truth to using the basics, along with common sense and historical data.

My 83 year old father is a retired ship captain (Master of All Vessels license) and tracked tropical systems for decades at sea using basically nothing more than a barometer, reports from other ships ,and common sense.

Last year as we were being told to evacuate our home here in Tampa because of Charley, my father called and said not to worry that it was going to turn. I asked him why he thought that; and he said (after reading his garage sale barometer on his porch up in north Tampa) "our pressure is rising, it nevers goes up when they're approaching. It must be turning."

A few hours later we started hearing the local mets saying that it looked like it was turning.


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evergladesangler
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Re: Wilma Approaching the Yucatan Peninsula [Re: Lee-Delray]
      #60710 - Fri Oct 21 2005 12:22 PM

The last jog 15:45 is more west. It's about to get sunny in Cozumel.

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komi
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Re: Wilma Approaching the Yucatan Peninsula [Re: evergladesangler]
      #60711 - Fri Oct 21 2005 12:24 PM

Yep, looks like: http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/archdat/tropi...b-201N-864W.jpg

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tpratch
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Re: Wilma Approaching the Yucatan Peninsula [Re: Lee-Delray]
      #60712 - Fri Oct 21 2005 12:26 PM

Not quite W of NW... Closer to East of NW or further from land.

Here's an updated graphic:


If I put them in reverse order, it would make updates more efficient, but such is life


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Kimberley Clark
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Re: Wilma Approaching the Yucatan Peninsula [Re: Geoff]
      #60713 - Fri Oct 21 2005 12:26 PM

Geoff, What is your father saying about Wilma?

Kimberley

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KiminCanada
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Re: Wilma Approaching the Yucatan Peninsula [Re: Geoff]
      #60714 - Fri Oct 21 2005 12:28 PM

Geoff what does he thing about Wilma???

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funky
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Re: Wilma Approaching the Yucatan Peninsula [Re: tpratch]
      #60715 - Fri Oct 21 2005 12:29 PM

great updates! it looks like the 6 hour is going to be the path. but the GFDL is saying it will head almost directly west from here, i just don't see that happening. man do i want to be wrong about this one!

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scottsvb
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Re: Wilma Approaching the Yucatan Peninsula [Re: KiminCanada]
      #60716 - Fri Oct 21 2005 12:30 PM

LOL he cant say anything about her yet and he would agree cause he used a barometer reading to see the pressure was rising...and for now,,its going away from florida slightly,,so we cant tell. Then when it moves back over water and starts heading NE then we will have and Idea,, but he wont know if it will hit or miss cause its coming at a different angle then Charley did up ther west coast.

Edited by scottsvb (Fri Oct 21 2005 12:32 PM)


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komi
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Re: Wilma Approaching the Yucatan Peninsula [Re: funky]
      #60717 - Fri Oct 21 2005 12:31 PM

Looks like is moving more westward now: http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/float-ir4-loop.html

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tpratch
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Re: Wilma Approaching the Yucatan Peninsula [Re: funky]
      #60718 - Fri Oct 21 2005 12:33 PM

Updated it again to make it more readable and to make the Full path more distinct.

I think this is as far as I'm going to bother with updating the look. No need to make it pretty - it's just data

Then again, I could gussy up this data something fierce and make it so purty...

/but I won't. Back to work.


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Steve H1
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Re: Wilma Approaching the Yucatan Peninsula [Re: tpratch]
      #60719 - Fri Oct 21 2005 12:45 PM

If I was anywhere from Tampa to the Keys, I'd be getting things ready for a possible Cat 3 Monday night/Tuesday. GFS at 12Z shows Cat 3 not that far south of Tampa and deeper than the 6Z. This after sitting on land on the NE Yucatan for 48 hours.

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charlottefl
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Re: Wilma Approaching the Yucatan Peninsula [Re: tpratch]
      #60720 - Fri Oct 21 2005 12:45 PM

Can anyone try and figure out what the distance across the yucatan is on the storms current NW path looks like about 70 mi to me.. Trying to figure out if she keeps moving how long she'll be over land.

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emackl
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Re: Wilma Approaching the Yucatan Peninsula [Re: tpratch]
      #60721 - Fri Oct 21 2005 12:46 PM

Max Mayfield made the best point in his conference. He said at the end that no one should focus on the fact that it may be a weakening level 2 as it makes landfall in FL. If there was a TD in the carib that was going to strike while strengthing to a level 2 it would be a "Big Deal". As far as I'm concerned that's a dig on the reporters that most are to ignorant to get. I can't tell you how many times during Katrina I heard a reporter saying "she's a weakening storm, not going to be so bad....blah blah blah!

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FlaMommy
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Re: Wilma Approaching the Yucatan Peninsula [Re: Steve H1]
      #60722 - Fri Oct 21 2005 12:48 PM

so do you think i should reschedule my reservations...i have them set for sunday night....should i go ahead and do monday night...need help...thanks

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Lee-Delray
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Re: Wilma Approaching the Yucatan Peninsula [Re: emackl]
      #60723 - Fri Oct 21 2005 12:50 PM

As Governer Bush said after Katrina there is no such thing as a minimal hurricane.

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emackl
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Re: Wilma Approaching the Yucatan Peninsula [Re: emackl]
      #60724 - Fri Oct 21 2005 12:53 PM

Does anyone know of any actual sat maps ( google earth perhaps) that we could see Cozumel through the eye with. I'm sure eventually they will be made but somewhere there may be one right now so I don't have to wait...LOL!

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evergladesangler
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Re: Wilma Approaching the Yucatan Peninsula [Re: Steve H1]
      #60725 - Fri Oct 21 2005 12:54 PM

Quote:

If I was anywhere from Tampa to the Keys, I'd be getting things ready for a possible Cat 3 Monday night/Tuesday. GFS at 12Z shows Cat 3 not that far south of Tampa and deeper than the 6Z. This after sitting on land on the NE Yucatan for 48 hours.




If it sits on land for that long it's hard to imagine it could get back to a CAT 3 with the westerlies ripping at it, the likely dry air instrusion, and the cooler Gulf temps. How accurate is the GFS in terms of intensity?


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funky
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Re: Wilma Approaching the Yucatan Peninsula [Re: tpratch]
      #60726 - Fri Oct 21 2005 12:56 PM

and look at the spacing...she is definitely slowing down!!! this is great news for tampa

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Updated it again to make it more readable and to make the Full path more distinct.

I think this is as far as I'm going to bother with updating the look. No need to make it pretty - it's just data

Then again, I could gussy up this data something fierce and make it so purty...

/but I won't. Back to work.




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native
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Re: Wilma Approaching the Yucatan Peninsula [Re: emackl]
      #60727 - Fri Oct 21 2005 12:56 PM

I google earthed it earlier....NADA....was a good idea though!

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