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Random Chaos
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Re: Tropical Storm Alpha Forms in the Eastern Caribbean. Hurricane Watches Up For Florida [Re: Tazmanian93]
      #61830 - Sat Oct 22 2005 10:17 PM

With all the concentration on Florida, let me draw you toward something else the GFDL series of models has been consistently showing over the last several runs: a left hook into New England toward the middle of the week. Landfall for Wilma could be anywhere between Conneticut and Newfoundland, with the time-average of the models concentrating on Maine. Additionally, the attached GFDL intensity guidence indicates that hurricane force winds, possible as high as Category 2, may effect parts of New England.

Now you may continue with your obsessive-compulsive "where is it going to hit in Florida" discussion
My trigger finger is getting itchy. But since this is discussion related? I'll leave it~danielw


Edited by danielw (Sat Oct 22 2005 10:27 PM)


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gailwarning
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Re: Tornado warning [Re: Tammster]
      #61831 - Sat Oct 22 2005 10:19 PM

My parents are in a small mobile home in Zephyrhills, Pasco County, northeast of Tampa. Should I be urging them to get out of there at this point? I'm in Melbourne Beach area on east coast, but in a solid house. It doesn't sound like it's going to be any picnic for us here, but should my folks be on their way here tomorrow?

I'm worried--not sure what to do at this point.


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CaneTrackerInSoFl
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Re: Tornado warning [Re: gailwarning]
      #61832 - Sat Oct 22 2005 10:20 PM

Might be a good idea to bring em over to Melbourne. Though, its now or never, and especially since they are in a mobile home, with the chance for hurricane force winds and tornadic activity in that area,

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Thunderbird12
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Re: Tropical Storm Alpha Forms in the Eastern Caribbean. Hurricane Watches Up For Florida [Re: sara33]
      #61834 - Sat Oct 22 2005 10:22 PM

Wilma is still moving VERY slowly. Any movement that occurs in the next several hours is not going to tell us anything about where it is going to make landfall.

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Tazmanian93
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Re: Tropical Storm Alpha Forms in the Eastern Caribbean. Hurricane Watches Up For Florida [Re: Random Chaos]
      #61835 - Sat Oct 22 2005 10:22 PM

Not to get to far off, I guess I am, Snow Advisory in upstate NY till Sunday

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TinaB
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Re: Tornado warning [Re: gailwarning]
      #61836 - Sat Oct 22 2005 10:23 PM

I'd tend to agree wtih CaneTracker on this one. Although it looks like this area (I'm in Tampa) won't suffer the worse effects of the storm, if I were in a mobile home I think I'd evacuate. I just don't trust them to stand up to the winds. My philosophy is it's always better to be safe than sorry.

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Re: Tornado warning [Re: ftlaudbob]
      #61837 - Sat Oct 22 2005 10:23 PM

Hard to say that storms over Fl this PM are directly influenced by Wilma -- Several severe storms noted on Melb radar are generating various tornado warnings-- including N of Palm Beach and several approaching Orlando -- But looking at motion all are moving almost directly away from Wilma to NE -- Not Wrapping around as far outer bands would

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CaneTrackerInSoFl
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Re: Tropical Storm Alpha Forms in the Eastern Caribbean. Hurricane Watches Up For Florida [Re: Thunderbird12]
      #61838 - Sat Oct 22 2005 10:23 PM

Latest satallite looks like Wilma is starting to develop some cold cloud tops again. The dry air that was so visible before is now almost completely covered by convection. Still, probably will take a little more time to work it out.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/float-ir4-loop.html

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Re: Tropical Storm Alpha Forms in the Eastern Caribbean. Hurricane Watches Up For Florida [Re: CaneTrackerInSoFl]
      #61839 - Sat Oct 22 2005 10:26 PM

Saw the same thing.Covection it starting to flare up to the north.Worse fear is this thing gets alot stronger.

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Thunderbird12
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Re: Tornado warning [Re: satellite steve]
      #61840 - Sat Oct 22 2005 10:27 PM

The storms may be loosely related to Wilma. The outflow jet from Wilma is probably enhancing the shear a little bit for those storms.

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Big Tk
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Re: Tropical Storm Alpha Forms in the Eastern Caribbean. Hurricane Watches Up For Florida [Re: Rdietch]
      #61841 - Sat Oct 22 2005 10:27 PM

The northern eye wall is really starting to fire up. Motion is real erratic at this point. It all depends how far the trough digs to the south. We will no by 5am ADV.

Edited by Big Tk (Sat Oct 22 2005 10:30 PM)


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tashina
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Re: Tropical Storm Alpha Forms in the Eastern Caribbean. Hurricane Watches Up For Florida [Re: BTfromAZ]
      #61842 - Sat Oct 22 2005 10:27 PM

Max on CNN says: eyewall large so changes will be slow.....no estimates of Cancun gusts yet...slow intensification possible over loop current back into major hurricane.....ERC could happen...he's amazed that the small eyewall is still intact.

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harmlc.ath.cx
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Re: Tropical Storm Alpha Forms in the Eastern Caribbean. Hurricane Watches Up For Florida [Re: Random Chaos]
      #61843 - Sat Oct 22 2005 10:30 PM

Anyone know a good link for the current water temperatures in the GOM?

Edit - here is a kewl place to view some: http://comps.marine.usf.edu/


Edited by RedingtonBeachGuy (Sat Oct 22 2005 10:38 PM)


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Hurricane Fredrick 1979
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Re: Tropical Storm Alpha Forms in the Eastern Caribbean. Hurricane Watches Up For Florida [Re: Big Tk]
      #61844 - Sat Oct 22 2005 10:31 PM

Quote:

The northern eye wall is really starting to firer up. Motion is real erratic at this point. It all depends how far the trough digs to the south. We will no by 5am ADV.




I have a oddball question. What would happen IF the trough does not pick her up? I have seen where there has been at least one time so far that it didnt dip farther south to pick it up.


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RedingtonBeachGuy
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Re: Tornado warning [Re: gailwarning]
      #61846 - Sat Oct 22 2005 10:33 PM

gailwarning - always best to error on the side of caution. They are suggesting that Tampa will see 75 mph+ winds.

www.wfts.com/stories/2005/10/051022local.shtml

However, realize it may be more prudent for them to go to a local shelter than for you to run across the state on Sunday as the roads will become full with traffic - especially the I-4 corridor - and the rain is scheduled to start becoming harder and harder.

Of course, only you folks know what is best for your safety.

Take care!


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Geoff
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Re: Tropical Storm Alpha Forms in the Eastern Caribbean. Hurricane Watches Up For Florida [Re: Random Chaos]
      #61847 - Sat Oct 22 2005 10:33 PM

The last advisory had the speed near 3 MPH; but if you look at the various loops and compare the time it takes for the eye width to travel over a fixed point it sure appears to me that she's moving faster than that now...

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danielwAdministrator
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I think we may have a problem [Re: Hurricane Fredrick 1979]
      #61848 - Sat Oct 22 2005 10:34 PM

The Northern Semicircle has Really intensified.
A large area of High Cloud Tops. (the White area)
Click on Wilma's center to zoom in.

http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goeseastconusir.html


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Random Chaos
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Re: Tropical Storm Alpha Forms in the Eastern Caribbean. Hurricane Watches Up For Florida [Re: harmlc.ath.cx]
      #61849 - Sat Oct 22 2005 10:35 PM

SSTs? Sure:

NHC: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/tafb/atl_anal.gif
NRL (Navy) Main site: http://www7320.nrlssc.navy.mil/hhc/all_watl.html
NRL Today's 26C+ SSTs: http://www7320.nrlssc.navy.mil/hhc/watl/sst2.watl.20051022.gif
NRL Today's HHC (more useful than SST): http://www7320.nrlssc.navy.mil/hhc/watl/hh3.watl.20051022.gif
Raw SST data: http://marine.rutgers.edu/cool/sat_data/?product=sst&region=gulfmexico&nothumbs=0

Edited by Random Chaos (Sat Oct 22 2005 10:37 PM)


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Tazmanian93
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Re: Tropical Storm Alpha Forms in the Eastern Caribbean. Hurricane Watches Up For Florida [Re: harmlc.ath.cx]
      #61850 - Sat Oct 22 2005 10:38 PM

This is updated 2x Day

https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/products/NCODA/US058VMET-GIFwxg.NCODA.glbl_sstanomaly.gif

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MichaelA
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Re: Tropical Storm Alpha Forms in the Eastern Caribbean. Hurricane Watches Up For Florida [Re: Tazmanian93]
      #61852 - Sat Oct 22 2005 10:42 PM

Bay News 9 (Pinellas County) has just reported that all previous watches are now warnings.

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