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LI Phil User Reged: Fri Posts: 2637 Loc: Long Island (40.7N 73.6W) Re: Bashing the NHC       Mon Jul 26 2004 04:31 PM Edit   Reply   Quote   Quick Reply   You raise a fair point, but for this system, they simply could have put in a disclaimer, something along the lines of "THIS SYSTEM IS FORECAST TO MOVE NE AND IS NOT EXPECTED TO AFFECT ANY LANDMASS". I believe Ed will be explaining it from a pro's point of view, so keep tuned. Speaking of Floyd, I remember that one vividly. I believe it was a CAT IV brutalizing the Bahamas and headed for Florida when the decision to evac was given (and if I'm not mistaken, that was the largest peace time evac in US history). Cantore was all poised to bring the best footage since Andrew and then all of a sudden Floyd made a hard right and headed towards Hattaras, and eventually, me. Well, ol' Jim got on the first plane outta there, but since Seidel and Kenealy had already staked out their spots in NC, JC headed up to Point Lookout, about 9 miles south of me. So I got to meet the great Jim Cantore! Sorry for the story (some of y'all have heard it before), but the point being that NHC may have "goofed" on Floyd, but it's quite a bit different to make the decision to order evac for a CAT IV storm 24-36 hours away from the US mainland (and on a direct path, no less), than to "classify" a storm whose Dvorak #'s certainly were of TD status. It's probably in some part due to money, but when you're talking peoples' lives, it's probably better to be safe than sorry. This (98L) would have affected neither. -------------------- 2005 Forecast: 14/7/4 BUCKLE UP! "If your topic ain't tropic, your post will be toast" Post Extras

Entire topic Subject Posted by Posted on Tropics Quiet for the Moment MikeC Mon Jul 26 2004 04:31 PM Re: Tropics Quiet for the Moment Anonymous   Sat Jul 24 2004 12:41 PM The Little Triangle joepub1   Sat Jul 24 2004 01:24 PM Re: Tropics Quiet for the Moment Anonymous   Fri Jul 23 2004 02:22 PM Re: Tropics Quiet for the Moment Cycloneye   Thu Jul 22 2004 06:11 PM Re: Call the ball#2 summercyclone   Fri Jul 23 2004 11:28 AM Re: Call the ball#2---what DOES that MEAN Phil? bobbi   Fri Jul 23 2004 12:30 PM 98L invest for area NE of Bahamas Cycloneye   Thu Jul 22 2004 08:56 PM Re: 98L invest for area NE of Bahamas LoisCane   Thu Jul 22 2004 09:03 PM Re: Tropics Quiet for the Moment LI Phil   Thu Jul 22 2004 05:35 PM Re: Tropics Quiet for the Moment Steve   Thu Jul 22 2004 05:39 PM Re: Tropics Quiet for the Moment DustDuchess   Thu Jul 22 2004 05:52 PM nothing doing HanKFranK   Thu Jul 22 2004 06:11 PM Re: nothing doing LI Phil   Thu Jul 22 2004 09:03 PM 12/47 give or take a cord LoisCane   Thu Jul 22 2004 09:21 PM Couplea off night tidbits... Steve   Thu Jul 22 2004 11:54 PM Re: Couplea off night tidbits... DroopGB31   Fri Jul 23 2004 01:16 AM Re: Couplea off night tidbits... James88   Fri Jul 23 2004 04:39 AM 98L Rich B   Fri Jul 23 2004 08:12 AM Re: 98L rmbjoe1954   Fri Jul 23 2004 08:46 AM Re: east Atlantic wave Tropics Guy   Fri Jul 23 2004 09:42 AM Re: east Atlantic wave ticka1   Fri Jul 23 2004 10:14 AM Re: east Atlantic wave Rich B   Fri Jul 23 2004 10:40 AM Re: east Atlantic wave Tropics Guy   Fri Jul 23 2004 02:11 PM East Atlantic wave rmbjoe1954   Fri Jul 23 2004 02:21 PM Re: east Atlantic wave Steve   Fri Jul 23 2004 10:14 AM touching all the bases here bobbi   Fri Jul 23 2004 10:50 AM Re: touching all the bases here Rich B   Fri Jul 23 2004 12:33 PM Re: touching all the bases here rmbjoe1954   Fri Jul 23 2004 12:54 PM Recon LI Phil   Fri Jul 23 2004 01:03 PM Re: Recon Anonymous   Fri Jul 23 2004 01:30 PM "97L" LI Phil   Fri Jul 23 2004 02:32 PM Re: "97L" scottsvb1   Sat Jul 24 2004 12:30 PM Re: "97L" Anonymous   Fri Jul 23 2004 06:08 PM Re: "97L" Rabbit   Fri Jul 23 2004 06:11 PM Sup Troy Robert   Fri Jul 23 2004 07:41 PM Re: "97L" Old Sailor   Fri Jul 23 2004 02:38 PM 98L rmbjoe1954   Fri Jul 23 2004 04:23 PM Re: 98L troy2   Fri Jul 23 2004 05:00 PM Re: 98L Rabbit   Fri Jul 23 2004 05:12 PM Re: 98L DroopGB31   Fri Jul 23 2004 04:49 PM JB LI Phil   Fri Jul 23 2004 05:15 PM 98L: my forecast Rabbit   Fri Jul 23 2004 05:37 PM Circulations troy2   Fri Jul 23 2004 05:59 PM Re: JB Steve   Fri Jul 23 2004 05:29 PM Re: "97L" LI Phil   Fri Jul 23 2004 02:42 PM Re: "97L" Old Sailor   Fri Jul 23 2004 08:31 PM Re: "97L" Steve   Fri Jul 23 2004 09:01 PM Re: "97L" Old Sailor   Fri Jul 23 2004 09:42 PM Re: "97L" Steve   Fri Jul 23 2004 10:24 PM Re: "97L" Old Sailor   Sat Jul 24 2004 10:10 PM Old Sailor LI Phil   Sat Jul 24 2004 10:15 PM Re: Old Sailor Old Sailor   Sat Jul 24 2004 10:21 PM Mon Français n'est pas bon LI Phil   Sat Jul 24 2004 10:27 PM Re: Mon Français n'est pas bon Storm Cooper   Sat Jul 24 2004 10:39 PM Re: Mon Français n'est pas bon Old Sailor   Sat Jul 24 2004 10:34 PM Re: "98L Anonymous   Fri Jul 23 2004 10:43 PM Re: "98L Steve   Fri Jul 23 2004 10:50 PM Re: "98L HanKFranK   Sat Jul 24 2004 01:23 AM Re: "98L James88   Sat Jul 24 2004 05:04 AM Re: "98L Storm Cooper   Sat Jul 24 2004 09:24 AM Re: "98L Ed Dunham   Sat Jul 24 2004 09:52 AM Re: "98L Cycloneye   Sat Jul 24 2004 09:55 AM Re: "98L Ed Dunham   Sat Jul 24 2004 10:24 AM Re: "98L Steve   Sat Jul 24 2004 10:17 AM Re: "98L HanKFranK   Sat Jul 24 2004 10:29 AM Re: "98L DustDuchess   Sat Jul 24 2004 10:56 AM Re: "98L Storm Cooper   Sat Jul 24 2004 11:02 AM IWIC Forecast LI Phil   Sat Jul 24 2004 11:19 AM Re: IWIC Forecast James88   Sat Jul 24 2004 11:49 AM 98L is DOA LI Phil   Sat Jul 24 2004 12:00 PM Re: 98L is DOA James88   Sat Jul 24 2004 12:31 PM Re: "97L" Anonymous   Fri Jul 23 2004 09:21 PM Re: "97L" DustDuchess   Fri Jul 23 2004 09:44 PM grand cayman circ? Alex K   Sat Jul 24 2004 12:55 PM my thoughts Rabbit   Sat Jul 24 2004 01:33 PM Re: my thoughts ticka1   Sat Jul 24 2004 01:48 PM Re: my thoughts DustDuchess   Sat Jul 24 2004 02:24 PM Re: my thoughts Anonymous   Sat Jul 24 2004 02:49 PM Re: my thoughts DroopGB31   Sat Jul 24 2004 02:59 PM Re: my thoughts DroopGB31   Sat Jul 24 2004 03:55 PM Whoa GFS Kevin   Sat Jul 24 2004 02:24 PM Re: Whoa GFS Cycloneye   Sat Jul 24 2004 04:00 PM the models Rabbit   Sat Jul 24 2004 04:09 PM avn LoisCane   Sat Jul 24 2004 11:48 PM SAL....ALex LoisCane   Sun Jul 25 2004 12:26 AM 7/25/04 James88   Sun Jul 25 2004 07:13 AM Re: 7/25/04 Rich B   Sun Jul 25 2004 09:28 AM Re: 7/25/04 James88   Sun Jul 25 2004 12:42 PM Re: 7/25/04 Steve   Sun Jul 25 2004 01:44 PM Re: 7/25/04 Ed Dunham   Sun Jul 25 2004 06:17 PM Re: 7/25/04 Old Sailor   Sun Jul 25 2004 11:51 PM The Gulf James88   Mon Jul 26 2004 03:57 AM Re: The Gulf Old Sailor   Mon Jul 26 2004 07:25 AM for Old Sailor...: The Gulf bobbi   Mon Jul 26 2004 09:05 AM Re: for Old Sailor...: The Gulf Old Sailor   Mon Jul 26 2004 10:31 AM Re: for Old Sailor...: The Gulf Steve   Mon Jul 26 2004 10:47 AM for steve bobbi   Mon Jul 26 2004 10:52 AM Re: for steve Steve   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:04 AM Re: for steve............ bobbi   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:13 AM Will 98L be classified? Jamiewx   Mon Jul 26 2004 10:42 AM Re: Will 98L be classified? and whats with ULL/wave? bobbi   Mon Jul 26 2004 10:47 AM Re: Will 98L be classified? Anonymous   Mon Jul 26 2004 10:45 AM Re: Will 98L be classified? Cocoa Beach   Mon Jul 26 2004 10:52 AM Re: Will 98L be classified? Anonymous   Mon Jul 26 2004 10:54 AM Re: Will 98L be classified? James88   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:00 AM Re: Will 98L be classified? Rabbit   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:01 AM Re: Will 98L be classified? Rabbit   Mon Jul 26 2004 10:59 AM Re: Will 98L be classified? James88   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:07 AM Re: Will 98L be classified? Rabbit   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:09 AM Re: Will 98L be classified? James88   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:13 AM Re: Will 98L be classified? Rabbit   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:16 AM 11:30 TWO says it all LI Phil   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:25 AM No development now Jamiewx   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:24 AM okay...... bobbi   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:48 AM Bashing the NHC LI Phil   Mon Jul 26 2004 12:01 PM Re: Bashing the NHC Old Sailor   Mon Jul 26 2004 12:37 PM Re: Bashing the NHC doug   Mon Jul 26 2004 12:46 PM Why we are here rmbjoe1954   Mon Jul 26 2004 12:55 PM looked at the loop, thanks for posting it bobbi   Mon Jul 26 2004 01:17 PM NHC DroopGB31   Mon Jul 26 2004 01:53 PM Re: lets discard the rating system doug   Mon Jul 26 2004 01:02 PM Re: convection east of Bahamas..... Tropics Guy   Mon Jul 26 2004 01:09 PM That glob north of the Windwards/PR/VI rmbjoe1954   Mon Jul 26 2004 01:07 PM Re: Bashing the NHC LI Phil   Mon Jul 26 2004 12:42 PM Re: Bashing the NHC Cocoa Beach   Mon Jul 26 2004 04:03 PM Re: Bashing the NHC LI Phil   Mon Jul 26 2004 04:31 PM Re: Bashing the NHC James88   Mon Jul 26 2004 04:39 PM Re: Bashing the NHC BillD   Mon Jul 26 2004 07:53 PM Re: Bashing the NHC Ed Dunham   Mon Jul 26 2004 09:56 PM Re: Bashing the NHC joepub1   Tue Jul 27 2004 01:10 AM Bahamas? James88   Tue Jul 27 2004 08:41 AM Re: Bahamas? rmbjoe1954   Tue Jul 27 2004 09:15 AM Re: Bahamas? Steve   Tue Jul 27 2004 10:16 AM Steve/and Bahamas LoisCane   Tue Jul 27 2004 11:12 AM Bahamas/Florida Rains rmbjoe1954   Tue Jul 27 2004 11:38 AM Awaiting the rain LI Phil   Tue Jul 27 2004 12:49 PM Re: Awaiting the rain Rich B   Tue Jul 27 2004 01:27 PM Tropics quiet for the moment Cycloneye   Tue Jul 27 2004 03:50 PM ok..cyclone..educate me a bit here please bobbi   Tue Jul 27 2004 04:01 PM Re: ok..cyclone..educate me a bit here please Steve   Tue Jul 27 2004 04:21 PM Re: ok..cyclone..educate me a bit here please rmbjoe1954   Tue Jul 27 2004 04:24 PM Re: ok..cyclone..educate me a bit here please Steve   Tue Jul 27 2004 04:44 PM thanks for the dust info... miami wxr @5 bobbi   Tue Jul 27 2004 05:27 PM Re: thanks for the dust info... miami wxr @5 Steve   Tue Jul 27 2004 07:27 PM thank u, im soooooooooooooo bored bobbi   Tue Jul 27 2004 07:35 PM Saharan Dust Aloft rmbjoe1954   Tue Jul 27 2004 04:09 PM Worth Watching rmbjoe1954   Tue Jul 27 2004 04:00 PM Re: Worth Watching Hurric   Tue Jul 27 2004 05:18 PM Re: Worth Watching Rich B   Tue Jul 27 2004 05:40 PM disc 27july/some offtopic at ed's mercy HanKFranK   Tue Jul 27 2004 07:47 PM Re: Worth Watching Anonymous   Tue Jul 27 2004 07:36 PM Tuesday E'en thoughts... LI Phil   Tue Jul 27 2004 07:55 PM Re: Tuesday E'en thoughts... bobbi   Tue Jul 27 2004 09:30 PM Re: Worth Watching Justin in Miami   Tue Jul 27 2004 07:54 PM hey there.. oh and ps bobbi   Tue Jul 27 2004 05:31 PM Re: Bahamas? Rich B   Tue Jul 27 2004 10:32 AM Re: Bahamas? Tropics Guy   Tue Jul 27 2004 10:14 AM Re: Bashing the NHC LI Phil   Mon Jul 26 2004 10:14 PM Re: It's looking wet Anonymous   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:09 PM Re: It's looking wet javlin   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:14 PM Re: It's looking wet Steve   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:28 PM Re: Bashing the NHC DroopGB31   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:02 PM Starting over LoisCane   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:41 PM Re: Bashing the NHC Old Sailor   Mon Jul 26 2004 10:11 PM hi Bill LoisCane   Mon Jul 26 2004 08:04 PM not bashing nhc on my part.. disagreeing LoisCane   Mon Jul 26 2004 07:20 PM Re: not bashing nhc on my part.. disagreeing LI Phil   Mon Jul 26 2004 09:27 PM For Bastardi Fans and netwaves.net (Panama City Beach)... Anonymous   Mon Jul 26 2004 09:46 PM The fault lies not within the stars... LI Phil   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:34 AM Re: The fault lies not within the stars... Anonymous   Mon Jul 26 2004 02:25 PM Re: The fault lies not within the stars... Steve   Mon Jul 26 2004 03:44 PM Re: The fault lies not within the stars... bobbi   Mon Jul 26 2004 03:57 PM Re: The fault lies not within the stars... Steve   Mon Jul 26 2004 04:00 PM Re: The fault lies not within the stars... Old Sailor   Mon Jul 26 2004 04:42 PM Re: FLORIDA RAIN LONNY307   Mon Jul 26 2004 05:19 PM Re: FLORIDA RAIN Old Sailor   Mon Jul 26 2004 05:42 PM trouble with the nhc HanKFranK   Mon Jul 26 2004 06:25 PM Re: The fault lies not within the stars... James88   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:41 AM unclassified systems Rabbit   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:48 AM Re: unclassified systems Tropics Guy   Mon Jul 26 2004 12:36 PM Re: unclassified systems Rich B   Mon Jul 26 2004 12:09 PM Re: unclassified systems Steve   Mon Jul 26 2004 01:05 PM Re: The fault lies not within the stars... Rabbit   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:40 AM Re: Will 98L be classified? Rabbit   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:11 AM Tropical development for 98L unlikely Cycloneye   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:27 AM Action in the tropics - south of Long Island! James88   Mon Jul 26 2004 05:13 AM Is Phil getting his wish? LoisCane   Mon Jul 26 2004 07:23 AM Re: Is Phil getting his wish? James88   Mon Jul 26 2004 07:27 AM Re: Is Phil getting his wish? LI Phil   Mon Jul 26 2004 10:23 AM Re: Is Phil getting his wish? James88   Mon Jul 26 2004 10:29 AM a Yankee view bobbi   Mon Jul 26 2004 10:26 AM Will 98L be the first TD of the season? Cycloneye   Mon Jul 26 2004 08:51 AM Re: Will 98L be the first TD of the season? James88   Mon Jul 26 2004 09:44 AM Re: Will 98L be the first TD of the season? Rich B   Mon Jul 26 2004 09:50 AM Re: Action in the tropics - south of Long Island! Old Sailor   Mon Jul 26 2004 07:14 AM Re: Action in the tropics - south of Long Island! Anonymous   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:31 AM Re: 7/25/04 HanKFranK   Sun Jul 25 2004 02:35 PM Re: 7/25/04 James88   Sun Jul 25 2004 04:08 PM Re: 7/25/04 LoisCane   Sun Jul 25 2004 07:23 PM Re: 7/25/04 danielw   Sun Jul 25 2004 09:50 PM BOC? LoisCane   Mon Jul 26 2004 07:27 AM Re: 7/25/04 danielw   Sun Jul 25 2004 04:31 PM Re: 7/25/04 James88   Sun Jul 25 2004 04:54 PM el nino LoisCane   Sun Jul 25 2004 04:06 PM okay steve... so you dont like the atlantic wave LoisCane   Sun Jul 25 2004 02:30 PM Re: okay steve... so you dont like the atlantic wave Justin in Miami   Sun Jul 25 2004 06:20 PM Re: 7/25/04 James88   Sun Jul 25 2004 09:35 AM Re: 7/25/04 Steve   Sun Jul 25 2004 10:09 AM Re: 7/25/04 Rich B   Sun Jul 25 2004 10:12 AM Hedging our bets are we? LoisCane   Sun Jul 25 2004 11:04 AM Re: Hedging our bets are we? Rich B   Sun Jul 25 2004 11:27 AM Re: 7/25/04 James88   Sun Jul 25 2004 10:50 AM Bets Anyone? Cocoa Beach   Sun Jul 25 2004 09:19 AM quick note Rabbit   Sat Jul 24 2004 04:55 PM Afternoon LI Phil   Sat Jul 24 2004 05:37 PM on hold HanKFranK   Sat Jul 24 2004 07:10 PM Hungry For Tacos? LI Phil   Sat Jul 24 2004 07:38 PM Re: atlantic wave Tropics Guy   Sat Jul 24 2004 09:53 PM Re: atlantic wave LoisCane   Sun Jul 25 2004 11:59 AM Updated discussion... Kevin   Sun Jul 25 2004 12:12 PM TG - You want some tacos? LI Phil   Sat Jul 24 2004 10:00 PM not a lot to look at huh? LoisCane   Sat Jul 24 2004 09:49 PM Re: "97L" Tropics Guy   Fri Jul 23 2004 10:16 PM Re: touching all the bases here Ed in Va   Fri Jul 23 2004 10:56 AM Re: touching all the bases here Ed in Va   Fri Jul 23 2004 10:58 AM Welcome aboard Ed LI Phil   Fri Jul 23 2004 11:08 AM

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