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      Wed Jul 28 2004 04:41 PM

First off, I think politics kept 98L from being classified--NHC didn't want to scare people with a TD or TS during the DNC in Mass.

now for my analysis of the forecast models

first off, I see nothing on the ECMWF over the Gulf that catches my eye, and that particular model has a history of inaccuracy in recent years (example, weakening Isabel after three days last year on the Sep 7 run)

the UKMET, which is also rather unreliable, shows a weak low in the Gulf

the NOGAPS, which is moderately accurate, shows a very broad low in the Gulf in a few days, but weakens it

the CMC, a somewhat reliable model, shows a possible TD near SC, which everyone else seems to have seen also. I think it is possible in a few days, and may be like TD2 in 1994 (formed from a front, pressure at 1015 at landfall on July 20)

the AVN, which seems to be the most reliable, still shows something comming off of Africa in about 4 days, but nothing in the Gulf. Interestingly, the African low is forecast to be rather compact and organized by August 2, with pressure between 1004 and 1006. It has held with this forecast for a week now, and a "blocker" wave has come off of Africa, blocking the high pressure and forcing it north, and may lower the pressure enough in the eastern Atlantic for the next wave to survive and strengthen.

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* Is There Something Brewing East of Bahamas? MikeCAdministrator Wed Jul 28 2004 04:41 PM
. * * Re: Is There Something Brewing East of Bahamas? Anonymous   Thu Jul 29 2004 09:20 AM
. * * Re: Is There Something Brewing East of Bahamas? James88   Thu Jul 29 2004 10:15 AM
. * * Re: Is There Something Brewing East of Bahamas? LI Phil   Thu Jul 29 2004 10:25 AM
. * * Re: Is There Something Brewing East of Bahamas? caneman   Thu Jul 29 2004 10:39 AM
. * * Re: Is There Something Brewing East of Bahamas? joepub1   Thu Jul 29 2004 11:10 AM
. * * There is something BIg east of the Bahamas! rmbjoe1954   Thu Jul 29 2004 11:20 AM
. * * Re: There is something BIg east of the Bahamas! Steve hirsch.   Thu Jul 29 2004 11:28 AM
. * * Re: There is something BIg east of the Bahamas! doug   Thu Jul 29 2004 11:36 AM
. * * Re: There is something BIg east of the Bahamas! LI Phil   Thu Jul 29 2004 11:50 AM
. * * Re: There is something BIg east of the Bahamas! James88   Thu Jul 29 2004 12:13 PM
. * * Pretty impressive Kevin   Thu Jul 29 2004 12:23 PM
. * * Re: There is something BIg east of the Bahamas! Tropics Guy   Thu Jul 29 2004 12:18 PM
. * * Models LI Phil   Thu Jul 29 2004 12:24 PM
. * * Re: Models Kevin   Thu Jul 29 2004 12:36 PM
. * * Re: There is something BIG east of the Bahamas! rmbjoe1954   Thu Jul 29 2004 12:22 PM
. * * 99L rmbjoe1954   Thu Jul 29 2004 12:16 PM
. * * Re: There is something BIg east of the Bahamas! Cycloneye   Thu Jul 29 2004 12:10 PM
. * * real quietly watching both systems... bobbi   Thu Jul 29 2004 11:49 AM
. * * Re: There is something BIg east of the Bahamas! James88   Thu Jul 29 2004 11:25 AM
. * * Re: There is something BIg east of the Bahamas! James88   Thu Jul 29 2004 11:26 AM
. * * Re: There is something BIg east of the Bahamas! joepub1   Thu Jul 29 2004 11:31 AM
. * * Re: There is something BIg east of the Bahamas! James88   Thu Jul 29 2004 11:33 AM
. * * Re: There is something BIg east of the Bahamas! joepub1   Thu Jul 29 2004 11:23 AM
. * * Is There Something Brewing in the Gulf ? teal61   Thu Jul 29 2004 10:45 AM
. * * Re: Is There Something Brewing East of Bahamas? Cycloneye   Thu Jul 29 2004 10:45 AM
. * * Re: Is There Something Brewing East of Bahamas? Old Sailor   Tue Jul 27 2004 10:33 PM
. * * Re: Is There Something Brewing East of Bahamas? Steve   Tue Jul 27 2004 10:50 PM
. * * Re: Is There Something Brewing East of Bahamas? James88   Wed Jul 28 2004 06:56 AM
. * * Re: Is There Something Brewing East of Bahamas? LoisCane   Wed Jul 28 2004 07:37 AM
. * * Re: Is There Something Brewing East of Bahamas? James88   Wed Jul 28 2004 08:46 AM
. * * Re: Is There Something Brewing East of Bahamas? doug   Wed Jul 28 2004 09:35 AM
. * * Re: Is There Something Brewing East of Bahamas? Steve   Wed Jul 28 2004 09:52 AM
. * * Re: Is There Something Brewing East of Bahamas? Old Sailor   Wed Jul 28 2004 12:49 PM
. * * Re: Is There Something Brewing East of Bahamas? Anonymous   Wed Jul 28 2004 01:12 PM
. * * Discussion Rob_M   Wed Jul 28 2004 02:42 PM
. * * beautiful analysis Mr. Mann bobbi   Wed Jul 28 2004 03:47 PM
. * * Re: Discussion Cycloneye   Wed Jul 28 2004 03:11 PM
. * * Re: Discussion Rob_M   Wed Jul 28 2004 07:19 PM
. * * Re: Florida weather doug   Wed Jul 28 2004 03:26 PM
. * * face to face observation bobbi   Wed Jul 28 2004 04:00 PM
. * * my analysis Rabbit   Wed Jul 28 2004 04:41 PM
. * * Re: my analysis Steve   Wed Jul 28 2004 05:15 PM
. * * Re: my analysis Anonymous   Wed Jul 28 2004 05:31 PM
. * * Re: my analysis Steve   Wed Jul 28 2004 05:41 PM
. * * TWO DroopGB31   Wed Jul 28 2004 05:46 PM
. * * Re: TWO Rich B   Wed Jul 28 2004 05:51 PM
. * * suspicion HanKFranK   Wed Jul 28 2004 06:05 PM
. * * Re: TWO DroopGB31   Wed Jul 28 2004 06:01 PM
. * * do not try this while alone bobbi   Wed Jul 28 2004 06:05 PM
. * * Illin' all day LI Phil   Wed Jul 28 2004 07:12 PM
. * * Re: Illin' all day Old Sailor   Wed Jul 28 2004 08:31 PM
. * * umbrellas in florida bobbi   Wed Jul 28 2004 08:02 PM
. * * Re: umbrellas in florida DustDuchess   Wed Jul 28 2004 08:45 PM
. * * Alligators on a leash... LI Phil   Wed Jul 28 2004 08:15 PM
. * * Re: Alligators on a leash... Ed DunhamAdministrator   Wed Jul 28 2004 10:55 PM
. * * Recovery of an Earlier Post Ed DunhamAdministrator   Wed Jul 28 2004 11:02 PM
. * * Potential? James88   Thu Jul 29 2004 06:05 AM
. * * Re: Potential? Rich B   Thu Jul 29 2004 06:33 AM
. * * Re: Potential? LoisCane   Thu Jul 29 2004 07:09 AM
. * * Re: Potential? James88   Thu Jul 29 2004 07:23 AM
. * * question... LoisCane   Thu Jul 29 2004 07:40 AM
. * * Re: question... James88   Thu Jul 29 2004 07:51 AM
. * * Bahamian System rmbjoe1954   Thu Jul 29 2004 08:46 AM
. * * Re: Bahamian System doug   Thu Jul 29 2004 09:02 AM
. * * Re: Bahamian System James88   Thu Jul 29 2004 09:08 AM
. * * Re: Bahamian System Steve hirsch.   Thu Jul 29 2004 09:00 AM
. * * 99L invest for east of Bahamas Cycloneye   Thu Jul 29 2004 08:52 AM
. * * Re: 99L invest for east of Bahamas Alex K   Thu Jul 29 2004 12:24 PM
. * * Re: 99L invest for east of Bahamas rmbjoe1954   Thu Jul 29 2004 12:34 PM
. * * Re: 99L invest for east of Bahamas Steve hirsch.   Thu Jul 29 2004 12:37 PM
. * * what happens if it doesnt move in the near term? bobbi   Thu Jul 29 2004 01:10 PM
. * * Keys comment bobbi   Thu Jul 29 2004 02:56 PM
. * * Re: 99L invest for east of Bahamas Anonymous   Thu Jul 29 2004 01:05 PM
. * * Re: 99L invest for east of Bahamas Kevin   Thu Jul 29 2004 01:06 PM
. * * Re: 99L invest for east of Bahamas rmbjoe1954   Thu Jul 29 2004 01:10 PM
. * * Re: TWO DroopGB31   Wed Jul 28 2004 05:50 PM
. * * Re: my analysis DroopGB31   Wed Jul 28 2004 05:38 PM
. * * Re: my analysis Steve   Wed Jul 28 2004 05:45 PM
. * * Re: my analysis Steve hirsch.   Wed Jul 28 2004 05:30 PM
. * * IF bobbi   Wed Jul 28 2004 09:57 AM
. * * Re: IF James88   Wed Jul 28 2004 10:11 AM
. * * Re: IF Steve   Wed Jul 28 2004 10:45 AM
. * * Re: IF James88   Wed Jul 28 2004 11:39 AM
. * * Cape Verde Season rmbjoe1954   Wed Jul 28 2004 11:44 AM
. * * NHC not into playing Fantasy Hurricane bobbi   Wed Jul 28 2004 12:10 PM
. * * Is the SAL fading a bit in Atlantic? Cycloneye   Wed Jul 28 2004 09:04 AM

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