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incipient matthew
      Fri Oct 08 2004 01:46 PM

nhc is waiting for their vortex message, probably so they can decide whether matthew will be tropical or subtropical. based on the core temperatures on yesterday's recon i'd say it is a tropical entity ahead of a baroclinic zone, but of course there's no telling what nhc will decide to call it. all of the weather is east of the center.. unless it accelerates some (don't buy that north-movement crap the globals are trying to give it.. gfs is treating it like a part of the upper trough).. think ene like that option i was pondering a couple days ago.. towards the se louisiana to panhandle region. my ideas aren't too far removed from what scott says, though that stuff about a mid-level vortmax being a depression hitting mexico the other day i didn't dig at all. think it will start shearing out as it nears the coast, too much in the way of westerlies.. if it reintensifies north of 30n after passing into the atlantic more than likely it will no longer be tropical.
complex deep layer system is developing in the central atlantic.. modeling starting to look more like a crossover tropical system rather than a gale center.. another iffy scenario with how nhc handles these things.
yet another deep layer low is forecast to dig southward near the azores and long range modeling looks suspicious there as well. low amplitude wave flaring near 50w is entering a favorable zone and may begin to look more ominous, though that will be a slow, low potential feature if anything.
there's an itcz vortmax south of the gulf of tehuantepec that models are developing in the eastpac some.. taking it wnw. i don't buy that quick movement, think it may be festering more and moving nnw. wait/see, but it gives me some ideas.
soi solidly negative, big typhoon heading for the south coast of honshu in japan... something could well pop in the deep tropics in the next few days. with the current longwave positions the sw caribbean and near the antilles look like the areas to watch... going into next week. gfs keeps speeding up that sharp amplification into the eastern u.s. late next week.. if something is in the western caribbean early next week then florida will have some worries.
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* Something new in the Bay of Campeche Storm Cooper Fri Oct 08 2004 01:46 PM
. * * HVY Rain possibility for W and N Gulf Coast danielwAdministrator   Thu Oct 07 2004 04:34 AM
. * * Re: HVY Rain possibility for W and N Gulf Coast ShanaTX   Thu Oct 07 2004 08:06 AM
. * * Scatt... LI Phil   Thu Oct 07 2004 11:22 AM
. * * Five for Florida? Kal   Thu Oct 07 2004 12:07 PM
. * * Re: Five for Florida? Storm Cooper   Thu Oct 07 2004 12:27 PM
. * * Re: Five for Florida? andy1tom   Thu Oct 07 2004 12:36 PM
. * * Re: Five for Florida? grasshopper2   Thu Oct 07 2004 01:04 PM
. * * Re: Five for Florida? andy1tom   Thu Oct 07 2004 01:55 PM
. * * Re: Five for Florida? grasshopper2   Thu Oct 07 2004 02:34 PM
. * * Re: Five for Florida? DroopGB31   Thu Oct 07 2004 02:43 PM
. * * Re: Five for Florida? scottsvb1   Thu Oct 07 2004 02:33 PM
. * * Re: Five for Florida? doug   Thu Oct 07 2004 02:53 PM
. * * Re: Five for Florida? scottsvb1   Thu Oct 07 2004 03:19 PM
. * * Re: Five for Florida? Bloodstar   Thu Oct 07 2004 04:25 PM
. * * Re: Five for Florida? Keith234   Thu Oct 07 2004 05:04 PM
. * * recon Storm Hunter   Thu Oct 07 2004 05:50 PM
. * * Re: recon Keith234   Thu Oct 07 2004 05:53 PM
. * * Re: recon Anony   Thu Oct 07 2004 06:43 PM
. * * Re: recon Keith(234)   Thu Oct 07 2004 07:17 PM
. * * Re: recon summercyclone   Thu Oct 07 2004 07:29 PM
. * * Re: recon Keith234   Thu Oct 07 2004 08:08 PM
. * * Re: recon Rabbit   Thu Oct 07 2004 09:01 PM
. * * Re: recon Keith234   Thu Oct 07 2004 09:03 PM
. * * Re: recon scottsvb1   Thu Oct 07 2004 09:12 PM
. * * Re: recon Keith234   Thu Oct 07 2004 09:33 PM
. * * Re: recon scottsvb1   Thu Oct 07 2004 09:14 PM
. * * Scott, I'm confused... LI Phil   Thu Oct 07 2004 09:27 PM
. * * Re: Scott, I'm confused... ShanaTX   Thu Oct 07 2004 09:51 PM
. * * Re: Scott, I'm confused... LI Phil   Thu Oct 07 2004 09:53 PM
. * * Re: Scott, I'm confused... ShanaTX   Thu Oct 07 2004 10:04 PM
. * * Re: Scott, I'm confused... LI Phil   Thu Oct 07 2004 10:17 PM
. * * Re: Scott, I'm confused... Hurric   Thu Oct 07 2004 10:33 PM
. * * Re: Scott, I'm confused... Redbird   Fri Oct 08 2004 09:49 AM
. * * Re: Scott, I'm confused... DMFischer   Fri Oct 08 2004 10:15 AM
. * * Re: Scott, I'm confused... GuppieGrouper   Thu Oct 07 2004 11:14 PM
. * * Re: Scott, I'm confused... Hurric   Fri Oct 08 2004 07:13 AM
. * * Re: Scott, I'm confused... GuppieGrouper   Fri Oct 08 2004 07:41 AM
. * * Re: Scott, I'm confused... Katie   Fri Oct 08 2004 10:50 AM
. * * Not for nothin', but... LI Phil   Fri Oct 08 2004 11:28 AM
. * * Re: Not for nothin', but... anony   Fri Oct 08 2004 12:07 PM
. * * Re: lets wake up doug   Fri Oct 08 2004 12:18 PM
. * * Re: lets wake up Ronn   Fri Oct 08 2004 01:59 PM
. * * Re: lets wake up Anony   Fri Oct 08 2004 02:38 PM
. * * Re: lets wake up Ronn   Fri Oct 08 2004 03:09 PM
. * * Re: lets wake up LI Phil   Fri Oct 08 2004 02:40 PM
. * * Re: lets wake up Anony   Fri Oct 08 2004 03:15 PM
. * * Re: lets wake up Anony   Fri Oct 08 2004 03:18 PM
. * * Re: lets wake up Anony   Fri Oct 08 2004 03:23 PM
. * * Matthew Advisory #1 recmod   Fri Oct 08 2004 05:05 PM
. * * Re: lets wake up LI Phil   Fri Oct 08 2004 03:28 PM
. * * Re: lets wake up Kimberley Clark   Fri Oct 08 2004 03:43 PM
. * * Re: lets wake up LI Phil   Fri Oct 08 2004 03:53 PM
. * * Re: lets wake up Kimberley Clark   Fri Oct 08 2004 03:53 PM
. * * Re: lets wake up anony   Fri Oct 08 2004 04:17 PM
. * * Maybe Matthew... LI Phil   Fri Oct 08 2004 04:28 PM
. * * Re: Maybe Matthew... LI Phil   Fri Oct 08 2004 04:32 PM
. * * Re: Maybe Matthew... Rasvar   Fri Oct 08 2004 04:38 PM
. * * Matthew @ 5:00 LI Phil   Fri Oct 08 2004 04:54 PM
. * * Re: Matthew @ 5:00 Kimberley Clark   Fri Oct 08 2004 04:55 PM
. * * Re: Matthew @ 5:00 LI Phil   Fri Oct 08 2004 05:00 PM
. * * Re: lets wake up Storm Cooper   Fri Oct 08 2004 03:29 PM
. * * Re: lets wake up LI Phil   Fri Oct 08 2004 03:30 PM
. * * Re: lets wake up Rabbit   Fri Oct 08 2004 03:20 PM
. * * Re: lets wake up Storm Cooper   Fri Oct 08 2004 12:31 PM
. * * Re: lets wake up LI Phil   Fri Oct 08 2004 12:25 PM
. * * Re: lets wake up Steve hirschb.   Fri Oct 08 2004 12:52 PM
. * * Re: lets wake up scottsvb1   Fri Oct 08 2004 01:18 PM
. * * Re: lets wake up Storm Cooper   Fri Oct 08 2004 01:28 PM
. * * incipient matthew HanKFranK   Fri Oct 08 2004 01:46 PM
. * * Re: incipient matthew scottsvb1   Fri Oct 08 2004 02:03 PM
. * * More West Cocoa Beach   Fri Oct 08 2004 01:08 PM
. * * Re: Not for nothin', but... James88   Fri Oct 08 2004 11:47 AM
. * * Re: Scott, I'm confused... doug   Fri Oct 08 2004 09:21 AM
. * * Re: Scott, I'm confused... scottsvb1   Fri Oct 08 2004 01:47 AM
. * * Re: Scott, I'm confused... Storm Cooper   Fri Oct 08 2004 03:32 AM
. * * RE:Tropical Weather Discussion DMFischer   Thu Oct 07 2004 11:14 PM
. * * Re: Scott, I'm confused... Hurric   Thu Oct 07 2004 09:59 PM
. * * Re: recon Rabbit   Thu Oct 07 2004 06:37 PM
. * * water vapor Storm Hunter   Thu Oct 07 2004 06:31 PM
. * * Re: Five for Florida? Storm Cooper   Thu Oct 07 2004 01:19 PM
. * * Re: Five for Florida? Storm Cooper   Thu Oct 07 2004 12:38 PM
. * * Re: Five for Florida? scottsvb1   Thu Oct 07 2004 12:40 PM
. * * Re: Five for Florida? devin   Thu Oct 07 2004 12:48 PM
. * * Re: Five for Florida? LI Phil   Thu Oct 07 2004 12:52 PM
. * * Re: Scatt... Ronn   Thu Oct 07 2004 11:37 AM
. * * Re: Scatt... James88   Thu Oct 07 2004 11:53 AM
. * * SW Gulf Of Mexico danielwAdministrator   Thu Oct 07 2004 05:19 AM
. * * 5AM CDT Tropical WX Outlook danielwAdministrator   Thu Oct 07 2004 05:25 AM

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