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Re: Hype Machine At Full Speed
      Thu Jun 09 2005 01:09 AM

mysticalmooons -- with the current convective structure, there is always the possibility of the center reforming nearer to the deep convection as/if/when the storm attempts to become better organized. That is actually common with many weak and/or sheared storms and is often seen when there is a broad area of low pressure, such as with TD 1. However, as of yet there isn't much indication of this happening: low-level center still appears to be on the west side of the system. But, the current organization to the bands & somewhat natural tendency for storms to try to become better organized hints that unless we see some development near the center soon, we could well see this occur with TD 1 as well.

Aside: convection on the west side of the storm died off several hours ago (first indicated by an outflow boundary being ejected towards the west from the complex, followed by the collapse of the convection). This hints that we might not see a lot of convective development near the current center for the time being, due to a somewhat stabilized environment. Given some time, though, maybe 6-12h more, the environment should have sufficiently recovered for new convective development to occur.

Ultimate impact of a reformation towards the east, with regards to track: probably would result in the storm ending up a bit more to the east at landfall, but probably not dramatically so. Things have the tendency to even out with time, despite the inability of the models to capture all of the inner processes tropical cyclones go through, as the overall flow regime at mid & upper levels should be more or less the same given a 1-2 deg jump to the east. Ultimately though, the main changes come to the track & intensity over the first day -- more to the east and stronger due to better organization, respectively.

Hope this helps answer things. We'll know a lot more in 12-18hr as to what this storm is going to do...especially once the big jets get out there to sample the storm & its environment.

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* Tropical Depression #1 Forms in the Caribbean Clark Thu Jun 09 2005 01:09 AM
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. * * Hype Machine At Full Speed StormHound   Wed Jun 08 2005 10:08 PM
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. * * Re: Hype Machine At Full Speed Tazmanian93   Thu Jun 09 2005 12:09 AM
. * * Re: Hype Machine At Full Speed mysticalmooons   Thu Jun 09 2005 12:40 AM
. * * Re: Hype Machine At Full Speed Clark   Thu Jun 09 2005 01:09 AM
. * * reformation HanKFranK   Thu Jun 09 2005 01:23 AM
. * * Re: reformation Droop31   Thu Jun 09 2005 01:29 AM
. * * Re: Hype Machine At Full Speed mysticalmooons   Thu Jun 09 2005 01:21 AM
. * * Re: Hype Machine At Full Speed Clark   Thu Jun 09 2005 01:24 AM
. * * Re: Hype Machine At Full Speed mysticalmooons   Thu Jun 09 2005 01:29 AM
. * * Re: recon decoder vvvteddybearvvv   Thu Jun 09 2005 01:37 AM
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. * * Looking better WeatherNLU   Thu Jun 09 2005 02:53 AM
. * * Re: Looking better Droop31   Thu Jun 09 2005 02:59 AM
. * * Re: Looking better Kevin   Thu Jun 09 2005 03:08 AM
. * * Re: 6 AM Quick Look danielwAdministrator   Thu Jun 09 2005 06:11 AM
. * * Re: 6 AM Quick Look hurricane_run   Thu Jun 09 2005 06:19 AM
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. * * Re: Hype Machine At Full Speed Tazmanian93   Thu Jun 09 2005 12:57 AM
. * * Re: Hype Machine At Full Speed mysticalmooons   Thu Jun 09 2005 01:01 AM
. * * Re: Hype Machine At Full Speed Tazmanian93   Thu Jun 09 2005 01:19 AM
. * * Re: Hype Machine At Full Speed StormHound   Wed Jun 08 2005 10:40 PM
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