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Re: Possible BOC system
      Sun Aug 21 2005 07:57 PM

Rich, I'm not sure if this low is even going to make it off of land. It's over the long, narrow west-east part of southern Mexico and heading west right now. Steering flow is out of the east with very little to no component that would send it a bit towards the north as the upper-level high pressure area has shifted towards the west over the past couple of days. It's broad and could always reform over water, but given what is there now, I'm not convinced it'll make it up into our basin. If it does get over water, all bets are probably off, though I think any significant development is going to be limited by proximity to land and a short time period that it'll remain over water before going back inland.

There is some model support for it moving west and ultimately west-southwest into the Eastern Pacific basin and spinning up there just off of the Mexican coast, however. I'm not sure I'd put much stock in the models for something like this anyway, given the proximity to land and the reorganization cycles these things can go through, but it's a trend that bears watching. The NOGAPS had been the one calling for this to maybe do something in the S. Bay of Campeche, but now has largely backed off of that idea.

As for the rest of the tropics....the 8:05p TWD upgraded the E. Atlantic feature to a special feature, suggesting possible development within 36hr. It needs that time to consolidate, but should do so through time. Slow development is possible from there, with the most likely end-game scenario taking it northward about 60W. We'll know more in a few days, though, once and if it develops. Elsewhere, there's not much to follow...still some model interest in the remnants of TD 10 (whichever piece of it they may be), whether in the Gulf Stream off of SC like Alex last year or in the Gulf. Depends on how strong the coming frontal boundary & trough is as to what the more likely scenario is...stronger boundary means the remnants are more likely to be pulled north. In any case, I don't expect (re)development out of this one until the middle of next week at the earliest...just doesn't have the longevity or the organization.

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. * * Re: Undramatic Pause Keith234   Sun Aug 21 2005 04:56 PM
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. * * Re: Undramatic Pause Big Red Machine   Sat Aug 20 2005 12:05 AM
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. * * Re: Undramatic Pause B.C.Francis   Sat Aug 20 2005 08:38 AM
. * * Re: Undramatic Pause Random Chaos   Sat Aug 20 2005 09:28 AM
. * * Re: Undramatic Pause NONAME   Sat Aug 20 2005 09:35 AM
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. * * Re: Undramatic Pause The Force 2005   Fri Aug 19 2005 02:25 PM
. * * Re: Undramatic Pause craigm   Fri Aug 19 2005 03:04 PM
. * * Re: Undramatic Pause Brad in Miami   Fri Aug 19 2005 02:47 PM
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. * * Re: Undramatic Pause NONAME   Fri Aug 19 2005 02:50 PM
. * * Re: Undramatic Pause J.C.   Fri Aug 19 2005 05:02 PM
. * * Re: Undramatic Pause Brad in Miami   Fri Aug 19 2005 05:13 PM
. * * Re: Undramatic Pause Brad in Miami   Fri Aug 19 2005 05:21 PM
. * * Re: Undramatic Pause Old Sailor   Fri Aug 19 2005 06:17 PM
. * * Re: Undramatic Pause damejune2   Fri Aug 19 2005 06:41 PM
. * * Re: Undramatic Pause Random Chaos   Fri Aug 19 2005 07:18 PM
. * * Re: Undramatic Pause Brad in Miami   Fri Aug 19 2005 02:55 PM
. * * Re: Undramatic Pause rmbjoe1954   Fri Aug 19 2005 02:59 PM
. * * Re: Undramatic Pause Brad in Miami   Fri Aug 19 2005 03:05 PM
. * * Re: Undramatic Pause Big Red Machine   Fri Aug 19 2005 03:23 PM
. * * Re: Undramatic Pause HURRICANELONNY   Fri Aug 19 2005 04:26 PM
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. * * last call HanKFranK   Sun Aug 21 2005 12:59 AM
. * * Re: last call Beaumont, TX   Sun Aug 21 2005 05:00 PM
. * * Re: last call Clark   Sun Aug 21 2005 01:13 AM
. * * Re: last call Random Chaos   Sun Aug 21 2005 02:47 AM
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. * * Re: 97 Invest Frank P   Sun Aug 21 2005 07:23 AM
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. * * Re: 97 Invest Random Chaos   Sun Aug 21 2005 10:34 AM
. * * Re: 97 Invest HanKFranK   Sun Aug 21 2005 11:28 AM
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. * * buckle up LI Phil   Sun Aug 21 2005 11:47 PM
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. * * Re: 97 Invest John03   Sun Aug 21 2005 07:40 PM
. * * Re: 97 Invest MikeG   Sun Aug 21 2005 07:53 PM
. * * Possible BOC system Rich B   Sun Aug 21 2005 05:59 PM
. * * Re: Possible BOC system Clark   Sun Aug 21 2005 07:57 PM
. * * transition time? HanKFranK   Sun Aug 21 2005 08:25 PM
. * * Home brew???? WXMAN RICHIE   Sun Aug 21 2005 08:55 PM
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. * * Re: Possible BOC system danielwAdministrator   Sun Aug 21 2005 06:15 PM
. * * Re: 97 Invest NONAME   Sun Aug 21 2005 04:44 PM
. * * Re: 97 Invest Clark   Sun Aug 21 2005 04:49 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Wave orientations/ interactions dem05   Mon Aug 22 2005 12:27 AM
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. * * Re: 97 Invest Clark   Sun Aug 21 2005 12:22 PM
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. * * Re: THings I'm watching Clark   Sat Aug 20 2005 03:06 PM
. * * Re: THings I'm watching Kevin   Sat Aug 20 2005 03:23 PM
. * * All a board B.C.Francis   Sat Aug 20 2005 02:15 PM
. * * Re: THings I'm watching NONAME   Sat Aug 20 2005 02:13 PM
. * * Re: Don't look now but... Ryan   Fri Aug 19 2005 10:19 PM
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. * * Re: Undramatic Pause Ron Basso   Fri Aug 19 2005 01:53 PM
. * * Re: Undramatic Pause native   Fri Aug 19 2005 04:17 PM
. * * Re: Undramatic Pause ralphfl   Fri Aug 19 2005 02:36 PM
. * * Re: Undramatic Pause newbie   Fri Aug 19 2005 03:25 PM
. * * Re: Undramatic Pause Hootowl   Fri Aug 19 2005 02:08 PM
. * * Re: Undramatic Pause Floridacane   Fri Aug 19 2005 11:11 PM
. * * Re: Undramatic Pause ralphfl   Fri Aug 19 2005 11:21 PM
. * * Re: Undramatic Pause Floridacane   Fri Aug 19 2005 11:31 PM
. * * Re: Undramatic Pause DebbiePSL   Fri Aug 19 2005 11:47 PM
. * * Re: Undramatic Pause imnotsignedinnow   Fri Aug 19 2005 11:39 PM
. * * Re: Undramatic Pause DebbiePSL   Fri Aug 19 2005 11:49 PM
. * * Re: Undramatic Pause Big Red Machine   Fri Aug 19 2005 11:47 PM
. * * Re: Undramatic Pause Floridacane   Fri Aug 19 2005 11:56 PM
. * * Re: Undramatic Pause DebbiePSL   Fri Aug 19 2005 11:51 PM
. * * NAM Model (was Undramatic Pause) Jax Chris   Fri Aug 19 2005 02:42 PM
. * * Re: Undramatic Pause pcola   Fri Aug 19 2005 01:39 PM

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