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Re: Azores - Canary Islands system
      Sat Oct 08 2005 01:37 PM

subtrop 22 is taking southeasterly shear... coincident with its direction of travel. the strong upper low to the south is shearing it from the east, in spite of its westward track... which suggests that it isn't being steered by/strongly associated with the upper trough anymore. up ahead on its track as it pulls away from the upper low, and ridging to the north controls its movement.. it should encounter modestly favorable conditions. ssts on its forecast track wouldn't support more than a tropical storm or weak hurricane under normal circumstances... the official looks about right there. that's assuming that the convective area to the east doesn't start competing with 22 and robbing all of its inflow... in which case the system would sputter westward and not really develop as per many of the models.
the upper low north of puerto rico has very strong drill-down potential, since it isn't moving quickly and already has turning at the surface.. and is over warm waters with a ridge to the north. don't be surprised if the upper low becomes the hurricane that several of the forecast models have originating around it.
well, i'll call it 96L... the powerful subtropical cyclone a few hundred miles west of morocco. the system has slowed down and is over fairly cool waters, so has probably peaked... as the environment around it is surely moderating and it doesn't have the same kind of differential to maintain the intensity it had. it may perk up a little as it gets drawn up into a baroclinic zone towards the british isles early next week... but i don't think its appearance will improve anymore so the nhc will probably not operationally classify it. at least they added it to the TWO. post analysis will be iffy as well, as it has existed beyond the periphery of the usual source region for tropical cyclones, and has obvious baroclinic origin. interesting system nonetheless.
not to forget 94L, but it is going to struggle. when it had a good vertical environment it sort of dawdled.. now it is under more substantial shear. there is enough upstream diffluence to support some convection as it continues wnw, but systems like this don't typically make it. it may end up entrained by the developing deep-layer complex ahead of it.
HF 1736z08october

Edited by HanKFranK (Sat Oct 08 2005 01:38 PM)

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* Nothing Imminent but Plenty of Waves - Subtorpical Depression Short Lived MikeCAdministrator Sat Oct 08 2005 01:37 PM
. * * Re: Nothing Imminent but Plenty of Waves typhoon_tip   Fri Oct 07 2005 10:13 AM
. * * Re: Nothing Imminent but Plenty of Waves NewWatcher   Fri Oct 07 2005 11:01 AM
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. * * Re: Nothing Imminent but Plenty of Waves Reaper   Fri Oct 07 2005 12:07 PM
. * * Re: Nothing Imminent but Plenty of Waves Thunderbird12   Fri Oct 07 2005 12:51 PM
. * * Re: Nothing Imminent but Plenty of Waves B.C.Francis   Fri Oct 07 2005 03:28 PM
. * * Re: Nothing Imminent but Plenty of Waves Big Kahuna   Fri Oct 07 2005 04:36 PM
. * * Re: Nothing Imminent but Plenty of Waves HanKFranK   Sat Oct 08 2005 12:33 AM
. * * Re: Nothing Imminent but Plenty of Waves HanKFranK   Sat Oct 08 2005 05:08 AM
. * * Re: Nothing Imminent but Plenty of Waves Bloodstar   Sat Oct 08 2005 05:23 AM
. * * Azores system Rich B   Sat Oct 08 2005 06:47 AM
. * * Re: Azores system Hugh   Sat Oct 08 2005 08:45 AM
. * * Re: Azores system Random Chaos   Sat Oct 08 2005 09:17 AM
. * * Its here - 22L Rich B   Sat Oct 08 2005 09:43 AM
. * * Re: Its here - 22L Margie   Sat Oct 08 2005 10:47 AM
. * * Re: Its here - 22L dave foster   Sat Oct 08 2005 11:56 AM
. * * Azores - Canary Islands system Rich B   Sat Oct 08 2005 12:05 PM
. * * Re: Azores - Canary Islands system HanKFranK   Sat Oct 08 2005 01:37 PM
. * * Re: Azores - Canary Islands system dave foster   Sat Oct 08 2005 06:11 PM
. * * Re: Azores - Canary Islands system HanKFranK   Sat Oct 08 2005 09:21 PM
. * * Re: Azores - Canary Islands system Clark   Sat Oct 08 2005 10:20 PM
. * * Re: Azores - Canary Islands system sara33   Sat Oct 08 2005 10:41 PM
. * * Re: Azores - Canary Islands system NONAME   Sat Oct 08 2005 10:46 PM
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. * * Re: Azores - Canary Islands system NONAME   Sat Oct 08 2005 11:06 PM
. * * Re: Azores - Canary Islands system CaneTrackerInSoFl   Sat Oct 08 2005 10:46 PM
. * * Re: Azores - Canary Islands system NONAME   Sat Oct 08 2005 10:28 PM
. * * Re: Azores - Canary Islands system Clark   Sun Oct 09 2005 12:17 AM
. * * Re: Azores - Canary Islands system Rich B   Sun Oct 09 2005 04:05 AM
. * * Re: Azores - Canary Islands system HCW   Sun Oct 09 2005 09:19 AM
. * * Re: Azores - Canary Islands system damejune2   Sun Oct 09 2005 09:28 AM
. * * Vince Cycloneye11   Sun Oct 09 2005 09:37 AM
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. * * Re: Azores - Canary Islands system Hugh   Sun Oct 09 2005 07:51 AM
. * * Re: Azores - Canary Islands system sara33   Sat Oct 08 2005 09:52 PM
. * * Re: Its here - 22L Hugh   Sat Oct 08 2005 10:35 AM
. * * Re: Nothing Imminent but Plenty of Waves typhoon_tip   Fri Oct 07 2005 01:29 PM
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. * * Re: Nothing Imminent but Plenty of Waves CoalCracker   Fri Oct 07 2005 12:14 PM
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